divx 3.11 to divx 4 or 5

[kezzzs]

hi. i need info on how to convert divx 3.11 files to divx 4 or 5 in as simple and fast as possible! if anyone can help or point me to the info i want then it would be much appreciated!! thanks

[UncasMS]

doesnt make sense to me

open avi in virtuakdub, select desired compression codec and save the file again

[setarip]

I'm just curious to know what you expect to accomplish by doing this (Other than DIMINISHING the quality of the video)?

[kezzzs]

i got the new Divx dvd player and it doesn't support divx 3.11 becasue its illigal apparently

[setarip]

Simply play them with Windows Media Player (already installed on your system), Sasami Player, Zoom Player, BS Player, and probably 100 other players...

[kezzzs]

no i mean this is a dvd player that connects to the tv (doensn't go inside the computer) and supports divx and xvid. if you look on the news on www.divx.com your find out about it

[setarip]

"The KiSS DP-450, set for release in late October, will enable playback of videos encoded in DivX versions 4.xx and 5.xx. Additionally, the two companies are working closely together to develop future products that will be "DivX Certified" and offer full compatibility with all versions of DivX video."

If this is what you are referring to, I would ask you two questions:

1) It is now December - do you know if this product has as yet been released (vaporware?)?

2) Did you read the end of this advertising blurb that states, "offer full compatibility with all versions of DivX video."?

[kezzzs]

1) if it doesn't exist i'd like to bluddy well know whats under my VCR ;)

2) it doesn't support support anything under divx 4 and they have said it never will due to legal issues.

Kezzz

[setarip]

"1) if it doesn't exist i'd like to bluddy well know whats under my VCR"

No need to get profane - If you read my post, I merely ASKED IF it exists (Primarily because a Google search didn't disclose any sites actually selling the hardware - just lots of reviews and forum postings)


What was the cost of this unit?

[kezzzs]

Originally posted by setarip
"1) if it doesn't exist i'd like to bluddy well know whats under my VCR"

No need to get profane - If you read my post, I merely ASKED IF it exists (Primarily because a Google search didn't disclose any sites actually selling the hardware - just lots of reviews and forum postings)


What was the cost of this unit?

sorry. didn't mean to be arsey! I was just being sarcastic in my odd sence of humour i have. anyway it cost about £280 (they don't sell it in the us for some reason or the other and I luckyly live in the UK)

[UncasMS]

changing the four-cc code doesnt make a difference?

and dont worry, your reply wasnt arsey ;)

[kezzzs]

four-cc code?

[setarip]

"four-cc code?"

The FOURCC code is some very basic information that appears in the header of .AVI (DivX-compressed or otherwise) that identifies, by means of a 4 letter/digit alphanumeric code, which video codec was used to create the video.

Many times, simply changing this code within the file's header creates the ability to play the video with a different (Read as "playing a DivX v.3.11 video using the DivX v.4.xx or 5.xx codec").

The DivX v.3.11 codec generates two different FOURCC codes, as follows: "Low Motion"=DIV3, "Fast Motion"=DIV4 (Yes, using uppercase is important).

Therefore, in order to "legitimize" your collection of v.3.11 videos for playback on your nifty piece of hardware (Yes, I'm a bit envious ;>}) by simply changing their FOURCC codes (either with a hex editor or a small program named appropriately, "FOURCC Changer"...

[kezzzs]

great! what could i open the files to edit it with?

[kezzzs]

oh lol. i should have read your post properly ;)

[setarip]

I repeat, "with a hex editor or a small program named appropriately, "FOURCC Changer"..."

[kezzzs]

i've tried it but unfortunatly the dvd player has absolutly no support for divx 3 files. only the audio works. it comes up with an error and all. I wouldn't be too envious of it. it might cost a pretty penny but the software keeps crashing and messing up. hopefully all these issues will be sorted in the next firmware update!

[setarip]

You have to change the FOURCC code FROM DIV3 TO the appropriate FOURCC code of DivX v.4.xx, DivX 5.xx (or similar).

Try DX50

If that doesn't work, remember that it was only a thought from UncasMS of a possible "quick fix"...

[Bendik]

I just bought the Kiss DVD 450.
Then I realized that all my divX films were compressed with divX3.11 and so I have began converting my films to divX5.02

Aprat from a minor audio problem virtual dub (that comes with the new rippack 3bv16.1) worked fine, and the result from a 700Mb divX3.11 was a 420Mb divX5.02 (one pass quality based).
What amazed me was that the quality of the output was really good! From 700Mb to 420Mb and I could hardly see the quality loss! Most mysterious!

The problem with the sound was that it was out of sync, so I had to:
1) extract the audio track to an uncompressed wav (as virtual dub instructed.)

2) convert the original divx3 video and the uncompressed audio to create a new divX5.02 file. (the PC is still working on this)

The Kiss DVD 450 has a bit 70's visual design, and a little buggy OS.
So far I have only tested DVD and SVCD on it, with great success.

I'll post back with the results on the DivX3.11 to DivX5.02 conversion once I have tested this.

[Kevin AMD]

don't re-encode jou only get quality loss anyway

[perwil]

Hi I saw your discussion and I'm also thinking of buying the Kiss dvd player. Has anyone found out a solution to playing 3.x movies on it? Is the reencoding time-consuming and a lot of work? Are there other ways?

Is it a good idea to buy the Kiss dvd player anyway, I mean will most divx movies in the future be in v4.x or 5.x rather than 3.x?

Thanks!

/Per Wilhelmsson

[kezzzs]

Hello. The DP-450 is a very good player but at the moment there isn't any way to play DivX 3 unfortunatly. Kiss inform me that they can't talk about it but if it is possible they will do it as soon as possible. Encoding DivX3 films to 4 or 5 is fairly quick on a P4 2.4ghz (my computer) using VirtualDub. Just select the slowest encodeding, use a DivX calculator (may i surgest BCDE 2.0 - Bitrate Calculator for DivX: the Essential) and also select fast recompress. i find that a movie will generally encode in about 1 hour. the picture quality also seems unaffected doing this way also which is good. I'm afraid films probably won't be encoded in 4 or 5 by most people since i beleave that you don't get such a good picture quality with these and also most of the guides are written for using DivX 3. Hopefully more and more people will start using it but i seriously dought it. Hopefully they will use XVid since this is compatible and imho looks better that divx! Hope this helps! Kezzz

[alon_tuch]

I got a KISS DP-450 Player too, and what I ask is that some one simply explain to me how to convert divx 3.11 to 4 or 5 take your pick! Changing the fourcc of the file does not do anything and the player with the current firmware (yes we have upgradable firmware (ogis Vorbin compatible!)) cannot support the pro features of divx 5. CAN SOMEONE JUST TELL ME HOW TO CONVERT 3.11 to 5 WITHOUT THE QUALITY LOSS??:smashead:

[kezzzs]

read my post above. its not that difficult

[alon_tuch]

Virtual Dub will encode the output video of DIVX 3.11, then re-encode it to divx 5.02 this can provide substantial quality loss. I am trying to find out how to have divx 3.11 be converted to divx 5.02 not re-encoded.

[kezzzs]

but this is the only way to do it. bealive me. follow my guides (i use divx 4) and you won't notice any difference in picture quality. when its playing on the DP-450 it looks even better :)

[alon_tuch]

Thank you I will try it out today. Why have you chosen DIVX 4? is there any particular reason why 5 was not used.
I have heard a lot or rumors that the new firmware released by Kiss on the 18th has a lot of new errors in it, I have actually been called by my DVD retailer who said he got called by Kiss who told him that he should when selling the dvd player advise consumers to wait until a second release after the 18th has been done. Does anyone know anything about this??


Thankx for the guide.

[kezzzs]

i choose divx 4 because i couldn't get divx5 working for some reason. Surely the 18th firmware hasn't quite been released yet. its not on their site. maybe in the morning...

[perwil]

Any news on the Kiss and conversion fronts?

I'm thinking of holding up my purchase of a divx-dvd-player until it supports whichever is the most popular divx-format at that time. Maybe when/if xvid takes over? Until then an svcd-compatible dvd-player may be a good buy?

Does the Kiss 450 support subtitles by the way?

[UncasMS]

CAN SOMEONE JUST TELL ME HOW TO CONVERT 3.11 to 5 WITHOUT THE QUALITY LOSS??

stop shouting and read my very first repsonse! :smashead:

and a quality loss will ALWAYS occur due to reencoding!

[Fishy]

I have a dp 450 and have started to re encode to divx 5.02 as well. most have worked out ok but I have some files that go out of audio sync. I have tried to recompress from extracted wav with vdub with no success (vbr to cbr), although this seems to work most times. I have tried extracting mp3 with nanbub and then reencoding video only with vdub and then using nandub to to make the final file but this just crashed nandub(any ideas anybody?). I don`t know what to try next but it would be great if the 450 would support 3.11 in the future. I shall watch the forum closley. Is it better to re encode to xvid than divx 5.02?

[cheops@collecto]

Stop everything......regarding divx 3.11 to divx 4 or 5.

I have some info from a guy called -h

he is working on a conversion tool that DOES NOT reencode the movie, and you will have no Quality loss at all.

I will keep you all informed on his progress, he is almost finished, and ready for beta testing......

I will keep you informed - if you can´t wait give me a PM, an I will give you some info - when I have more to let you know about the project

Regards

Cheops@Collector

[kezzzs]

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[cheops@collecto]

Originally posted by kezzzs
the word bulls*** comes to my mind ;) that would be good though :D


Well... I don´t care what comes to your mind :smashead:



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