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seanandjilluk
26 Jan 2003, 12:50 AM
HI everyone, this is a great forum and I have learnt so much already!! but i am stuck..................!
I have My big fat greek wedding in avi format, (700mb) I have split this into two files (350mb each), still avi
I used nero to encode and burn into vcd but pic was upside down, read forum and tryed encoding using TMPGEnc v2.59.47.155, this got the picture back but no sound!!(and there was a slight pause in the picture every couple of seconds )
I tweaked a few settings and i managed to encode keeping it at widescreen format 16:9 and having sound but when I went to burn with nero it says it needed to be encoded again.
What I would like to do is encode it to be able to put on svcd, the film is only 95 mins long so it should fit on two cdrs
I would like the quality to be the best I can get out of it!
Any help would be gratefully recieved!!!!:bglaugh2:
setarip
26 Jan 2003, 04:03 AM
"I tweaked a few settings and i managed to encode keeping it at widescreen format 16:9 and having sound but when I went to burn with nero it says it needed to be encoded again."
When you select the VideoCD (or SuperVideoCD) icon in NERO, click on the "VideoCD" tab and UNcheck the box labelled "Create standard compliant CD"...
seanandjilluk
26 Jan 2003, 04:22 AM
ill give it a try will post results shortly..........
seanandjilluk
26 Jan 2003, 05:56 AM
Results as promised......
Pic Quality is great,and at proper size although still a little jerky?
But no sound again!!!
Can anyone provide some step by steps maybe by pm (icq or msn)
Once this works itll be great!!
setarip
26 Jan 2003, 06:58 AM
"But no sound again!!!"
Unchecking the "compliant" box in NERO cannot have changed whether you have audio. Therefore:
1) Load the .AVI file into VirtualDub or NanDub
2) From the "File" dropdown menu, select "File Information"
3) Post (here) EVERYTHING you see (both video and audio information), or post a screen capture .jpg of the information box
The audiostream is probably in either .AC3 format or Variable Bitrate MPEG Layer 3 (VBR .MP3).
If it proves to be .AC3:
In TMPGEnc, under the "Environmental Settings" "VFAPI plugin" tab rightclick on the "Direct Show Multimedia Reader" and increase to the highest priority. This will enable TMPGEnc to accept a properly encoded .AVI with .AC3 audio for input...
If it proves to be VBR:
Converting .AVIs with VBR-MP3 Audio
Simply use VirtualDub to save the audio stream as an Uncompressed PCM (WAV) file as follows:
Load your original .AVI into VirtualDub
From the "File" dropdown menu, select "Save WAV" (Enter a new filename with a ".WAV" extender).Click on "OK"
Then set "Video" to "Direct Stream Copying"
Then save the .AVI as a silent .AVI (set "Audio" to "No audio" after you've saved the WAV file).
Open TMPGEnc and "drag and drop" the silent .AVI onto it, then do the same with the .WAV file
To create a VCD:
1) Load .AVI file into TMPGEnc
2) Set to "System Video and Audio" (lower right side)
3) Click on "Setting" radio button
4) Click on "System" tab, change mode to "MPEG1-VideoCD" (from default of "MPEG1")
5) Click on "Advanced" tab, change "Video arrange method" to "Center (Custom Size"), change dimensions to 352x288 or 352x240
6) Change "Source aspect ratio" to either "4:3 525 line (NTSC 704x480)", "4:3 525 line (NTSC)", or "16:9 525 line (NTSC)" - If you're in the PAL world choose either of the two similar PAL settings instead
7) Under the "Video" tab, change the dimensions to 352x288 or 352x240 (Note: "Video" tab mode of "MPEG1" is okay) - set "Motion Search Precision" to "Normal Quality". Change the "Aspect Ratio" to match, as closely as possible, the "Source Aspect Ratio" you set under the "Advanced" tab.
8) Change "Rate Control Mode" to "Automatic VBR (CQ_VBR)"
9) Under the "Audio" tab, set to 44,100 224Kbps
10) Press "Start"
Note that if your video runs longer than 70-80 minutes, you'll have to subsequently split your VCD-MPG file in two. This too can be easily and precisely accomplished using TMPGEnc. Under the "Files" dropdown menu, click on "MPEG Tools" and select the "Merge & Cut" tab. Once again, make sure to change the mode to "MPEG1-Video CD". Load your file and enter a new (.MPG) name in the "Output file" box. Then doubleclick on the ORIGINAL file's name in the window, which will bring you to the cutting area. Select your desired start and end points for the first half, click on "Okay" which will bring you back to the first window and generate (in a sequence of three automated steps) the first new file. To create the second new file, repeat the steps starting with "Then doubleclick on the ORIGINAL..." (be extra patient with the second half, as the program has to do more seeking to establish the beginning of the new file).
Use a burning program, such as NERO to burn your CD-R or R/W CD as a VCD (DON'T ask NERO to format the file as a VCD, since you've already accomplished this!)
seanandjilluk
26 Jan 2003, 07:02 AM
I shall follow the steps and reply soon, thanks for your help!!:confused: :smashead: :bglaugh2: :D
setarip
26 Jan 2003, 07:22 AM
"thanks for your help!!"
My pleasure ;>}
seanandjilluk
26 Jan 2003, 08:47 AM
Got virtualdub but wen i put the vid in itcomes up with the attached message.
Codec probs then........more help??
Many thanks:vbouncy:
setarip
26 Jan 2003, 08:51 AM
You need to download and install the Xvid (NOT DivX) video codec...
seanandjilluk
26 Jan 2003, 08:53 AM
Any suggestions for a quick download ive been lookin about i think i know where to get it but it might be quicker if you know somewhere for sure maybe post a link or sumthing??
cheers m8
setarip
26 Jan 2003, 08:55 AM
It can't be any faster than clicking on the DivXDigest (NOT DVD Digest) link at the top of this page ;>}
seanandjilluk
26 Jan 2003, 09:01 AM
oh dear my poor dumb ass:smashead:
under the xvid codec downloads theres 7 links
do u know which will be the one i need oh wise one!!! :bglaugh2:
also will downloading this codec affect any others?
ie does this take the place of any others i have or is it like the more codecs you have the more options u got??
Thanks again!!!!!11
setarip
26 Jan 2003, 09:08 AM
"under the xvid codec downloads theres 7 links"
Try the first one (Be brave ;>})
"does this take the place of any others"
Nope - it's entirely different...
(Say hello to Jill - or Sean ;>})
seanandjilluk
26 Jan 2003, 09:14 AM
downloaded codec no probs there loaded file into virtualdub and i get this message (attached) still lets me load file
is this message important??:missile:
ps. jill says hi!
seanandjilluk
26 Jan 2003, 09:56 AM
hi are you still about dont leave me know were almost there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1:eek: :eek: :eek:
setarip
26 Jan 2003, 10:21 AM
The VirtualDub message indicates that the audiostream is, indeed, in VBR .MP3 format. Simply follow my previous instructions as to how to extract the VBR audiostream as a .WAV file...
seanandjilluk
26 Jan 2003, 10:27 AM
Wicked I shall go ahead and try that now, with fingers crossed !!
Will these settings help the jekyness of the ones ive done previously?
and is it best to encode the one big full avi and then split it or split the avi and then encode?
(Ive got the avi in two parts)
also last but not least, once all is encoded and good, what should be the process of burning it with nero? i admit i usually use nero express, im a bit unsure ... i know its pushin it but do you think you can pass on some steps on how to burn the vcd ?
Thanks ever so much you have been a great help and stopped me losing any more of my hair!!!!!!!!:angelgrn: :bglaugh2: :biglaugh:
setarip
26 Jan 2003, 10:59 AM
"what should be the process of burning it with nero?"
Read my previous instructions on creating the VCD (Simply use NERO to BURN the VCD, NOT to create/convert it - because you've already done the conversion in TMPGEnc)
"Thanks ever so much you have been a great help and stopped me losing any more of my hair!!!!!!!!"
My pleasure ;>}
seanandjilluk
26 Jan 2003, 11:04 AM
hi, i understand that the vcd is already created but when i go into nero do i go through > new and then >create vcd etc?
If you could tell me the steps once nero is open i would be grateful!!
Thanks:bglaugh2:
setarip
26 Jan 2003, 11:53 AM
Click on the VCD icon
Click on the "New" radio button
"Drag and drop" the .MPG file into the window that has captions such as "Track", "Title", "Duration", "Pause", "Size", etc.
After NERO finishes analyzing and shows a colored timeline, click on the "Burn" icon
seanandjilluk
26 Jan 2003, 12:01 PM
Yep i got it now, ive burnt off the first one, and yipee sound!! but..........the sound is about 10 secs ahead of the video, I think this has something to do with the fact i dropped the frame rate from 30 to 25 , dont ask me why i did it??:smashead: :smashead:
Am i right in assuming this is the prob? ive started again at 30fps will this be it this time!!!??!!!?!??!?!?
Lets hope so.............
Thanks very much 4 your help it has been very graciously recieved!!!!! I can sleep easy tonight!!!!!!!
setarip
26 Jan 2003, 12:05 PM
If you're dropping the framerate in an attempt to make the VCD in PAL format, make certain that ALL related settings under both "Video" and "Advanced" are set to PAL configurations...
"Thanks very much 4 your help it has been very graciously recieved!!!!! I can sleep easy tonight!!!!!!!"
May you (and Jill) have pleasant dreams - hopefully not of My Big Fat Greek Wedding ;>}
seanandjilluk
27 Jan 2003, 02:32 AM
Guess what....still probs!!
Cant seeem to get audio and vid to synch up, i am tryin to get it in pal format followed steps accuratle but still sound is 10secs out!
Any ideas??!
:missile:
setarip
27 Jan 2003, 06:20 AM
Open VirtualDub (or NanDub)
Load the silent .AVI
From the "Audio" dropdown menu, select "WAV audio"
Load the .WAV file
Set BOTH "Video" and "Audio" to "Direct Stream Copy".
From the "Audio" dropdown menu, select "Interleaving"
Under "Audio skew correction", set an appropriate number of milleseconds (positive or negative) in the box labelled "Delay audio track by" (This may take some experimentation)
Save with a new filename
Let us know of your success ;>}
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