Best Quality ?

[AssaultSS]

Do movies compressed with divX or with mpeg-2 have a better quality?

[UncasMS]

since divx is mpeg4 they can be much better than the mpeg2 format (keep in mind though that dvd are mpeg2 format as well :eek: ) used for svcd.

[AssaultSS]

I know that if I want to make a svcd the resulution has to be 480x576. But will the quality be better than divX if I create a mpeg-2 file with a higher resolution? A resolution of 720x416 for example ?

[setarip]

"since divx is mpeg4 they can be much better than the mpeg2 format"


Did you get that backwards? Maybe more compressed, but better quality???

[benderman]

DivX is not so different from MPEG-2. DivX/MPEG4 is based on the MPEG-2 codec. It's optimized for smaller filesize. The quality in highest bitrate/low-motion is not significant better or worse than MPEG-2. So DivX is only smaller not better but can by same quality as DVD with smaller filesize.
Comparing SVCD and DivX, DivX is the best except for audio-sync and DVD-compatibilty ;-).

[UncasMS]

i was of course talking about svcd not dvd
thought the content in brackets did make that clear!

[AssaultSS]

I did only ask this because I want to get high quality rips of DVDs and I don't know if I should use the divX codec or the mpeg2 codec. The filesize of a two hour rip should be 1300 mb.

[UncasMS]

most definitely you shouzld use MPEG4 for that NOT mpeg2
thus divx (or my favourite m$ v2) should be used as codec!

[techno]

Still, if the source is REALLY good then choose fast motion 6000 bitrate.

here is a link for a MPEG2 vid I made, if it doesn't work then please contact me cause I can sort out the problem,

This was re-encoded, in MPEG2, 4-5 times (like I said in the other posting) This is a BROADCAST QUALITY VIDEO

Damn, link doesn't work, email me (programmer2@another.com) and I will send the link correctly, it is on someone elses server (sorry)

I will l8r put up the fast motion version!

Techno

[AssaultSS]

thank you for your reply techno but I think the email address you've written is wrong. Could you please send me the right link to the video to Assault@ngi.de? And could you please explain how you exactly rip your movies? You said that you re-encodes your movies 4-5 times in mpeg2. How does this work?
thank you

[techno]

Hi there, I don't rip dvd's (never have done! But I will l8r)

I capture videos from TV and then encode directly to MPEG2, do this about 3-4 times until it is good and brilliant quality, then to DIVX fast motion 6000 bitrate:

for more detials:

contact me:

webstuff1@hotmail.com

I shall send u the full detials!

Techno

[AssaultSS]

does anyone know where i can get the ms mpeg4 v2 codec?

[techno]

It is DIVX 3.11alpha low motion!

www.divx-digest.com/software

Techno

[AssaultSS]

I don't think so. UncasMS said divX is the hacked mpeg4 codec but there's a difference between them. Mpeg4 v2 doesn't create macroblock faults like divX low motion does.

[techno]

there is no difference!

MS MPEG 4 (hacked) is DIVX

v2 = low motion
v3 = fast motion

when people say "MS-MPEG 4v2" they mean DIVX low motion, ask anybody!

Techno

[AssaultSS]

but then I don't understand why you can chose between divX and mpeg4v2 in the settings of Nandub

[techno]

Because DIVX is fast motion in nandub and MS MPEG v2 is low motion!

Techno

[AssaultSS]

maybe you're right. I only asked this because when I chose divX in Nandub all works fine but when I chose mpeg4v2 the movie won't be compressed. I thought this happens because I don't have the mpeg4v2 codec but perhaps it's because any other reason.

[UncasMS]

Because DIVX is fast motion in nandub and MS MPEG v2 is low motion!


NOPE!;)

nandubs SMARTBITRATECONTROL is based on the fact that it can switch 'on the fly' from fast to low motion :biglaugh:


@assaultss

of course you will have to have ms v2 installed in order to use the codec in nandub.
m$ v1-3 are part of tsunamis filterpack btw.

[techno]

Sorry uncasMS, ur right! I got confused with something else! Thanks for keeping as both striaght!

Techno

[dmlove]

Can somebody give a beginner some guidance. I have burned VCDs using TMPGenc and Nero (home videos captured from my camcorder to Studio DV, then edited, saved as .avi files and converted). The quality of VCD isn't very good on the TV using the set-top DVD player. Should I be stepping up here - what is DivX? How do I get better quality? Will I need a DVD burner, or is this with a CD burner? What player?

[techno]

VCD is MPEG1 therefore not good quality.

SVCD is MPEG2 and good quality but more file size

DIVX is not playable on Stand alone DVD players.

On a PC, u can rip a DVD and convert to DIVX which will fit on one CD without loss of quality.

Techno

[dmlove]

Techno, so if I want to watch on the PC, I can convert to DivX for better quality? What converter?

[techno]

OK, I am not an expert at DVD rips, UncasMS is! I am a capture "expert"

To convert any video to DIVX:

Let's take a SVCD for an example:

Download and install the DIVX 3.11alpha codec (www.divx-digest.com)

Download Vidomi

open the SVCD file

choose the video settings:

fast motion 6000 bitrate, 75crisp (only use this if the quality is REALLY REALLY high, this fast motion will reduce the file size alot and good picture quality)

Or

most people choose low motion cause it's brilliant quality, but file size will be a bit large, DVD rips will fit on one CD with low motion. Use a bitrate calc (www.divx-digest.com) to figure out the bitrate to be used for low motion

Audio:

MP3 44100Hz 128 or 192 bitrate

Start encoding!

Wala, a DIVX video!

Please ask more questions about encoding if u wish to

Techno