Crashed on win xp using wmp

[decryptit]

i have recently encoded a new video ,but each time i paly it on wmp it crashes.On other players it works fine .Any suggestions.

[Enchanter]

Sounds like a codec problem. Perhaps you could try reinstalling some of the codecs that you think are suspicious.

[decryptit]

How come it works fine on other players.

[zx50]

Do you have ffdshow installed on your pc?? if not then try that. There is a known incompatibility issue with WMP9, my DivX films started to shake all the time (yes i know, yours crashed) and when i installed ffdshow they played fine.

<a href="http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/codecs_and_filters/ffdshow.cfm"target="_"blank">here</a>

[decryptit]

yeah i obviously have ffdshow if i didn't it wouldn't play very fine on my other player.

[zx50]

On what player ????????

P.S and what version of ffdshow have you got. Is it the latest one

[decryptit]

on power dvd and win dvd worked fine on wmp9 no.

FFDSHOW bulilt in 28th nov.

[hacker_on_fire]

I think wmp9 is just a rubbish player, only good for the occasional streaming video as most stremaing videos are specially desgined for it (encoded in the wm codec) thus the good playback when streaming music video's form launch.com

However i recommed trying windows meida player classic. Try it for yourself and discover its vast array of benefits/features. You'll be suprised and never want to go back.

[zx50]

Hmmn, i have to disagree there, i think that WMP9 has 2 thing's going for it and they are a) great picture b) brilliant sound.

[hacker_on_fire]

But its cluttered, uses up alot of cpu and they are better players such as windows media player classic. You have to try it before you can compare.

[zx50]

Uses a lot of CPU, are you kidding me? when playing a film the most CPU that ever gets used is 30%. And what do you mean by cluttered???

P.S i have tried windows media player classic. And the sounbd is'nt as good as WMP9 and on my machine the CPU is about the same.

[hacker_on_fire]

You'll notice it most when you are running alot of tasks at the same time and your computers been on for 4/5 days. wmpc can aslo play ogm/mkv/realmedia/quicktime files which wmp9 cannot.
It doesn't really matter, its just a personal preferance.

[zx50]

Originally posted by hacker_on_fire

wmpc can aslo play ogm/mkv/realmedia/quicktime files which wmp9 cannot.



Yeah there is that, but like i say i have to have the sound and the picture.

Originally posted by hacker_on_fire

It doesn't really matter, its just a personal preferance.



Yeah people like different thing's.

[hacker_on_fire]

btw, you can configure wmpc to use your desired video and audio filters. so the picture could equal wmp9 if you select the right codecs/filters. For example i could configure it to use Poweverdvd's video filter (Cyberlink video/sp decoder) for mpeg2 playback instead of it's default internal one.

[decryptit]

Power dvd is quite a good player.

[hacker_on_fire]

I agree. Version 5 i tohught was not that good. I got worse video playback, with skips in comparsion to version 4.

[zx50]

Yeah quite good, apart from the fact that it won't seem to play XviD files (well not on my system anyway).

[decryptit]

it doesn't it gives you an error.

[zx50]

Nope, just seems to crash.

[hacker_on_fire]

powerdvd is not designed for XviD files. Use windows media player classic for xvid.

[decryptit]

It repoted an error for me.

[zx50]

I have give DivX loads of chances to meet the quality of XviD, so tonight is the last night. I'm going to encode something in DivX 5.1, starting in about an hours time actually because yes it's painfully slow. But i'm only using standard for the analysing part and then slowest for the actual encoding. If the quality does'nt match that of XviD then it can stuff it. Saying this though i encoded something with it when it first came out and i had to stop if because i did'nt realise how long it took but the quality for the first 4mins was excellent, much better than the other ones that was realeased. So anyway i'll see. I might just stick to WMP9 because it has'nt give me any trouble so far. I mean there's no reason to change the player you have if you like it (for me anyway).

[hacker_on_fire]

Remember to use the latest veriosion of XviD- rc3.

[zx50]

I have been since it come out. I check their page frequently. To tell you the truth, i might just stick with XviD for 2 thing's<br> a) the speed, even doing a 2 pass with wide search enabled only takes 5 hours compared to their well....<br>b) the quality is excellent, and the max improvement and degration really seems to work.

I also tried an encode through the night with GMC enabled and the quality was excellent. You have pyscho enabled on DivX and you wonder where the bit's go. I had it enabled for this 2 hour film and there was still a fair amount of blocks apparent at the start of this film yet when configuring XviD there was still some there but not nearly as many as DivX. Although i don't like to blantantly shove thing's in their faces on the DivX forum, i say the odd thing or two but that's about it. Anyway the thing with the XviD codec is you can configure it to the film, say if the film has no dark scenes whatsoever then just lower the max improvement and degration if it has a lot of dark scenes then just upp it. It also has pyshco (well lumi masking), but i really find that this max overflow improvement and degration really works more than lumi masking.

[decryptit]

Actually i've tested xvid previous versions and didn'y like so much.
Compared to divx i've always prefered to dela with it.But since a new xvid release has come out i made use of it but it resulted
no video at all.

perhaps a conflict with divx. ( suggest if you can)

One think i can porve is that my friend has used this brilliant xvid codec (latest release) and the only thing that amazed me was the speed and the options of letting the user to customise his own settings for the video.Regarding quality i woudn't say that there is much difference ,if you want a hq movie divx is ready to
give it but eventually at very slow speed.
Withthe same quality xvid takes almost half the time taken by xvid and thats much convient.

[zx50]

Oh yeah, i'm not saying that the difference it obvious. To tell you the truth i think i had the resolution of this film too high, it was 576x320, i have it set at now 448x256. But even at this resolution it was XviD that could handle knowing where to put the bit's best and DivX not.But i've seen the tests on doom9 and on some scenes to me XviD won, but on others DivX won so....The thing is i don't like DVD quality, you know the clear thing where you look at the picture when it has bkack bars and it looks as if you can stick you hand through (if that makes sense), i don't like that. I've always said that i would'nt go below 512 but well....it seems okay.

[decryptit]

The thing is i don't like DVD quality, you know the clear thing where you look at the picture when it has bkack bars and it looks as if you can stick you hand through (if that makes sense), i don't like that.

Black bars 'not all dvd's have black bars and obviously they have the best quality one can gain.No matter which codec you try
dvd quality is just #1.Black bars can be removed easily in dvd's
either pan scan or digital zoom 4X is enough.

In divx you cannot always remove black bars in fact HACKER on Fire was not right.After encoding i always end up with black bars and if i do pan scan uslly the video gets a little bit streched.

[hacker_on_fire]

I am right, you can get rid of black bars. The problem you have is when the player sizes it to full screen AND keeps the aspect ratio thus putting it's own black bars. If you don't believe me you should use smart crop all as i said and adjust for perfection and then open the encoded file in virtualdubmod.

Edit:

If you want the video to fill the whole screen when zoom'd to full screen you need to make sure the player doesn't preserve the aspect ratio. Note this will strech the picture.

[decryptit]

AND keeps the aspect ratio thus putting it's own black bars

Nope i'm not keeping the aspect ratio and i've used the smart crop all option. ????????

How come using pan scan the video gets streched.

[hacker_on_fire]

As it forces the movie to fill the whole, of the screen.

"Nope i'm not keeping the aspect ratio and i've used the smart crop all option."

You must be keeping the aspect ratio the same (in the player NOT when encoding), otherwise the player would make it fill the whole screen when you put it to full screen.

[decryptit]

You must be keeping the aspect ratio the same (in the player NOT when encoding), otherwise the player would make it fill the whole screen when you put it to full screen.

I'll make it simple as possible .ok

1.Set the aspect ratio to 4:3 anamorphic. PAL/NTSC
2.The resolution 756*520 (codec) not gk
3.SET TO SMART CROP ALL
4.played using power dvd TICKED THE OPTION -"Keep Aspect Ratio"
5.Black bars appeared.
6.Unticked "keep aspect ratio"and ticked "PAN SCAN" and the movie got streched.

?????