PDA

View Full Version : Heard of New compression? 4x smaller than DIVX




techno
26 Mar 2002, 02:55 AM
!I come in peace"!

Has anyone heard the new technology that compresses ANY video 4x smaller than DIVX???? They say it is easier to transmit over the web.

Is DIVX DOOMED??

nope, we hope not. We all love DIVX, don't we?

I saw it on the news on the web, just thought u nice people may wish to be informed.

Thanks

Techno

tcb121
26 Mar 2002, 05:38 AM
It almost seems impossible to compress DIVX movies any further then what we can already do. That is amazing if it is true. Did they mention the name of the Codec? I would be interested in trying it out to see what type of results it yeilds. If you can post a link to where you found the information at, please do.

techno
26 Mar 2002, 06:30 AM
U talk sense m8!

DIVX is the best in the world, nothing can compete!

I will keep posting more info and links etc...

But remember, nothing is good as DIVX!!!

Techno

Enchanter
26 Mar 2002, 08:57 AM
DivX is a great compression technology, though it is an obviously lossy format. :)

andreaskorth
26 Mar 2002, 12:45 PM
It is true that there is a new compression technology which is said to be up to four times more effective than conventional technology such as DivX. It is however a hardware compression which needs specialized chips and it is primarily intended for digital broadcasting.

Read more about it here:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/729185.asp?0si=-

techno
26 Mar 2002, 05:39 PM
Thanks for that link, c, I wuz right! :)

Techno

Batman
27 Mar 2002, 04:06 AM
A while back On2 presented the VP5 video standard, which is supposedly free and open source. It is also, claimed that the codec delivers dvd quality video, and great compression. Recently, Pulsenet claims to be bringing a new codec that will offer higher quality video.

techno
27 Mar 2002, 04:07 AM
But for LOW file size? Like 3.11alpha?

Techno

Batman
27 Mar 2002, 04:43 AM
Both VP5 and the upcoming Pulsenet codec, claim that they offer dvd quality and high compression. Whether or not they are correct, is difficult to verify. I haven't been able to find the VP5 codec anywhere. The Pulsenet isn't out yet. Pulsenet, relies also on specialized hardware.

techno
27 Mar 2002, 04:45 AM
AS far as we r concerened, DIVX rules. :)

if there is a codec which compresses to DVD quality and high compression, I would use it.

U cannot say u cna get DVD quality if the original source is not good! u cannot make sh*t into gold (I tried, nearly succedded but not quite!)

Techno

WrineX
27 Mar 2002, 06:33 AM
hahaha well nice explaining techno :) hahaha

techno
27 Mar 2002, 06:35 AM
Thanks!

no, but seriosly, I have made a sh*t vid into good vid using MPEG2,

ftp://ftp.imbetterthanyou.com/pub/incoming/techno/before.mpg

ftp://ftp.imbetterthanyou.com/pub/incoming/techno/after.mpg

these are 6 sec clips

notice the drummer and blocks

Techno

andreaskorth
27 Mar 2002, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by Batman
Both VP5 and the upcoming Pulsenet codec, claim that they offer dvd quality and high compression. Whether or not they are correct, is difficult to verify.

What does "DVD quality" mean? The DVD is bound to the MPEG2 standard which is more than ten years old and can't really catch up with current compression technologies such as MPEG4 or DivX.

I regret to say that the DVD was already obsoloeted just at the time it was established on the market. It's the best you can get, though, but it fails to meet the demands of high definition video systems, such as HDTV.

NTSC (or PAL resp.) is good for medium-sized TV-sets but it looks really awful on a video projector. That's far from my understanding of "home cinema".

The only thing I really love about the DVD - as opposed to VHS - is that it features digital sound and anamorphic widescreen.

Batman
27 Mar 2002, 07:46 AM
The MPEG 2 format, the basis of the dvd is not yet "obsolete" it has many advantages, and is a vast improvement over VHS or S-VHS. MPEG-4 has not yet been perfected, and there is great chances for improvement, it is possible however that MPEG 4 may overtake the current dvd format.

techno
27 Mar 2002, 07:48 AM
Exactly

I make my sources good in MPEG2 > DIVX 3.11alpha

Techno

MovieRipper
27 Mar 2002, 10:22 AM
There's a Belgium guy who clames he can compress a 1 1/2 hour movie to a minimum of just 20 MB. Yip you're reading this right, 20 MB. The problem is that he wants to sell and put his compression technique available only for NASA. Pitty I think. There's much more use for this in the entertainment industrie. If I find the time I'll try to translate the article cause it's in dutch.

andreaskorth
27 Mar 2002, 11:31 AM
The MPEG 2 format, the basis of the dvd is not yet "obsolete" it has many advantages, and is a vast improvement over VHS or S-VHS.

I didn't say MPEG 2 was antiquated but the DVD certainly is since it is fixed to SDTV resolution. MPEG 2 is technically not limited to a certain resolution or bitrate (in fact it is but it would still be sufficient for HDTV). With MPEG 4 you could get more out of the capacity of a DVD.

andreaskorth
27 Mar 2002, 11:56 AM
There's a Belgium guy who clames he can compress a 1 1/2 hour movie to a minimum of just 20 MB. Yip you're reading this right, 20 MB. The problem is that he wants to sell and put his compression technique available only for NASA.

I can easily compress a 4 hour movie to just 2 MB using DivX. It merely depends on the resolution, bitrate and the source video :)

BTW, I thought the NASA guys deal with spaceships in the first place. :P

Enchanter
27 Mar 2002, 12:00 PM
I thought the NASA guys deal with spaceships in the first place.
Probably they are planning to record videos of the red planet or other starts in the DivX format. Talk about NASA keeping up with the technologies. :)

MovieRipper
27 Mar 2002, 04:08 PM
No Nasa isn't going to get into digital video. But the compression technique he develloped can be used with any file available. Just wait for my article translation.