Can't Get Dvdshrink To Load On Win98se

[MILES E. STONE]

HI.
Ever since I got DVDSHRINK and decrypter, they always worked well on my win xp computer ,including shrinkto5.exe, but all never could work on the win98 computer. The 2 computers are almost the same other than their os. Both have 2 80gb hds each, 512mb ram, and both are pentium 4: the 98se is a 1.4ghz cpu while the xp is 2.4. My main and only question is how to run the dvdshrink on the 98se. The following error comes on the screen after its icon is checked:" DVDSHRINK encountered an error and canot continue. It failed to initiate ASPI device. The network request is not supported" I have tried at least 3 different Adaptec AsPI Drivers with the force installations. They all get installed 4.1, 4.6 and 4.7 but still no help getting dvdshrink to go. Viral scans, adware, spybots, trojans, and all other malware are scanned and definitions are updated daily.My version of dvdshrink is 3.2. I have even uninstalled it opimized, defraged, and reinstalled to no avail. Otherwise the computer runs perfectly. I also have other css decrypters and burning software such as iclickdvdcopy, xcopyxpress anydvd, however, both computers have these same programs. Of course they are off when trying to get dvdshrink to work on the win98se. Also, screensavers,AV, and all other programs are removed from memory when dvdshrink is tried on the 98se. I sure would appreciate any help or further advice you may have to help me remedy this nuissance.

Thank you,

Miles
MESMD
Junior Member
15. October 2005 @ 05:58
PS. THE ERROR i AM GETTING WITH DVD Shrink ON THE WIN98SE COMPUTER IS:
FAILED TO INITIALIZE THE ASPI DEVICE. The aspichk shows that aspi is currently installed version 4.6 and the components installed are:
winaspi32.dll and apix.vxd

What do I do?
Thanks...Help

Miles

[benbryant]

For your Windows 98, try to download Nero ASPI driver for that particular windows system from Nero's link below:

http://ww2.nero.com/nero6/enu/ASPI_Driver.html

Hopefully it will fix your problem

Regards

[Taelon]

Hi Miles, Read the instructions and download Force ASPI (http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm)
I recommend using ForceASPI this way:

* Run dumpASPI to backup your current ASPI layer
* Run killASPI
* Run instASPI to install the new ASPI layer
* Reboot
* Run aspichk or Nero Info Tool to see if everything worked OK

[MILES E. STONE]

For your Windows 98, try to download Nero ASPI driver for that particular windows system from Nero's link below:

http://ww2.nero.com/nero6/enu/ASPI_Driver.html

Hopefully it will fix your problem

Regards

benbryant, Thank you very much for your note.
I DO NOT HAVE NERO ON THE WIN98SE COMPUTER. However, I downloaded the Nero Aspi driver and read its text file( 1 of the 3 files self extracted in the downloaded file) It says to load the dll file in the nero directory!! and the other, I think, the vxd in the windows\system\iobusys\ sub directory. I did this only, since I do not have Nero. Then I tried running dvdshrink and got the same error. Dvdshrink failed to initialize the aspi device!!! Thanks for any other ideas.
Miles

[MILES E. STONE]

Hi Miles, Read the instructions and download Force ASPI (http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm)
I recommend using ForceASPI this way:

* Run dumpASPI to backup your current ASPI layer
* Run killASPI
* Run instASPI to install the new ASPI layer
* Reboot
* Run aspichk or Nero Info Tool to see if everything worked OK


Hi Taelon and thank you for your help. However, in the past, I ran Force aspi from the command(dos) window and it did replace the aspi device 7.x with its own 6.x version, then verified by aspichk. However, no response or change in getting dvdshrink to initialize the new aspi driver. I did not perform this in the exact steps outlined in your note. Nevertheless, it still installed the proper aspi version device driver. Do you think I should repeat this, however, following your exact steps, or do you have any other thoughts? Again, thanks so much for your support in this problem, that's driving me crazy!! Especially, when Dvdshrink works so well in the win xp machine. I do realize that xp is alot more stable, sophisticated and needs no supplimentally installed Aspi device, etc.

Miles

[Taelon]

I can assure you that DVD Shrink will work fine with Win98SE. It should interface directly with the ASPI layer. If you've verified the ASPI layer is installed correctly with ASPICheck or similar then something else must be interfereing. It should look like similar to the following image, if so there's no need to follow the procedure I listed earlier.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8063/aspi2yb.th.gif (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aspi2yb.gif)

Download, install and run the Nero Info Tool (http://ww2.nero.com/enu/Info_Tool.html) then attach the log file to your message. Perhaps we can find the driver that is fighting for control of the bus.

[benbryant]

Some of our members've had this kind of problem before and they suggested some of the reasonable fixes as the link below:

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45464

Sometimes, some suggestions don't sound logical. But they did work and it would cost anything to give them a try

Regards

[MILES E. STONE]

I can assure you that DVD Shrink will work fine with Win98SE. It should interface directly with the ASPI layer. If you've verified the ASPI layer is installed correctly with ASPICheck or similar then something else must be interfereing. It should look like similar to the following image, if so there's no need to follow the procedure I listed earlier.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8063/aspi2yb.th.gif (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aspi2yb.gif)

Download, install and run the Nero Info Tool (http://ww2.nero.com/enu/Info_Tool.html) then attach the log file to your message. Perhaps we can find the driver that is fighting for control of the bus.

Taelon,
I followed the protocal for the forceaspi-1.7 ie. killing, dumping, installing ver. 4.60, then rebooting. I then, ran the Aspichk annd got the following results:


ASPICHK-WIN98-CHK.TXT (file attached):

LOG0143: ************************************************** ***************
LOG0144: Starting ASPICHK-WIN98-CHK installer on Sun Oct 16 17:59:05 2005
ASPICHK0438: OS = Windows 95 (4.10.2222)
UPGRADE1004: c:\windows\system\wnaspi32.dll dated 09/10/1999 19:06:00, 45056 bytes.
UPGRADE1062: c:\windows\system\wnaspi32.dll version 4.6.0.1021
UPGRADE1004: c:\windows\system\winaspi.dll dated 09/10/1999 19:06:00, 5600 bytes.
UPGRADE1062: c:\windows\system\winaspi.dll version 4.6.0.1021
UPGRADE1004: c:\windows\system\iosubsys\apix.vxd dated 09/10/1999 19:06:00, 22603 bytes.
UPGRADE1062: c:\windows\system\iosubsys\apix.vxd version 4.6.0.1021
UPGRADE1004: c:\windows\system\aspienum.vxd dated 09/10/1999 19:06:00, 7743 bytes.
UPGRADE1062: c:\windows\system\aspienum.vxd version 4.6.0.1021
ASPICHK0582: ASPI is properly installed and is fully operational. A total of 2 host adapters have been detected.
LOG0218: Closing installer log on Sun Oct 16 17:59:05 2005
LOG0219: ************************************************** ***************

DVdSHRINK still gives me the same error!!!
What do you recommend now?
Thank you again,

Miles

[Taelon]

Miles, please run the Nero Info tool and attach the log, thanks

[MILES E. STONE]

Miles, please run the Nero Info tool and attach the log, thanks
Taelon,
I just did what you asked for in your last note, however, this site would not accept the log as it was 38k! Mine was only 16k!! They told me to shorten it to 15k or it could not be posted. Being such a novice, I thought i would try and zip this with xtree for windows (not winzip, as I use it to open zip files only. I never tried using winzip to zip a file or files. In any event, my program created the enclosed info-too.zip (3k) I'm sure you can open it? (my first created windows file ever zipped by me!!! I used the attachment feature??
Again, I want to emphasize that the win98se computer plays all dvd movies, copies and decrypts alll movies with my other private programs, ( DVDXCOPY, and 1CLICKDVDCOPY using Anydvd) perfectly, as it is now. I'm just obsessed to try and learn why dVDSHRINK is having such a problem with the aspi initialization? Thanks so much for sticking with me and trying to rectify this quirk.
I hope this zip log has the answer.
Here it is as an attachment:

I really appreciate all your time and help,
Miles

[Taelon]

Miles, I've looked over the log and something is very wrong here:
Interface Information
---------------------
Adapter 1
---------
Description : Secondary IDE Channel

Driver
Description : INTELATA.MPD
Company : Intel Corporation
Version : 2.2.0.2126, 04/10/2002
Description : Intel Application Accelerator Driver

Attached Devices
Description : Maxtor 6 Y080L0
Type : Disk Drive
DMA : On
Description : WDC WD80 0JB-00FMA0
Type : Disk Drive
DMA : On

Adapter 2
---------
Description : unknown

Driver
Description : INTELATA.MPD
Company : Intel Corporation
Version : 2.2.0.2126, 04/10/2002
Description : Intel Application Accelerator Driver

Attached Devices
Description : PLEXTOR DVDR PX-504A
Type : CD-Rom Drive
DMA : On
Autorun : On
Description : TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1502
Type : CD-Rom Drive
DMA : On
Autorun : OnAdapter 1, should be the Primary Controller, Adapter 2 should be the secondary. I'm not sure the best way to fix it.

Perhaps open Device Manager and look at the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers. Make sure you've closed all running programs, then Uninstall both the Secondary and Primary controllers and reboot, but stop it and go into Safe Mode (F8), and do the same thing while in Safe Mode. Then reboot normally and windows should find the "new Hardware" and hopefully get it right this time.

[MILES E. STONE]

Miles, I've looked over the log and something is very wrong here:
Adapter 1, should be the Primary Controller, Adapter 2 should be the secondary. I'm not sure the best way to fix it.

Perhaps open Device Manager and look at the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers. Make sure you've closed all running programs, then Uninstall both the Secondary and Primary controllers and reboot, but stop it and go into Safe Mode (F8), and do the same thing while in Safe Mode. Then reboot normally and windows should find the "new Hardware" and hopefully get it right this time.
Hi Taelon,
Could this be that physically the company that initially made this computer, set up the Ide controllers as follows: Primary motheboard ide is attached to hard drive 0ne as master and Plextor burner as slave? (My dvdshrink uses this as, it's the only burner on the win98 computer) And the second hard drive uses the 2nd motherboard ide as master with the dvd rom only drive (toshiba) attached as the slave, to the 2nd ide controller? Or do really mean this is a software problem in the way the computer is confusng the ide controller software? I can send you a device manager log of the IDE/ATAPI CONTROLLERS? AS I REMEMBER, AND CAN SEE INSIDE THE COMPUTER, THE TWO HARD DRIVES ARE SET UP TO IDE 1 AS MASTER AND SLAVE. tHE 2 DVD PLAYERS ARE SET UP THE SAME WAY ON IDE 2, MASTER AND SLAVE. BY THE WAY, ANYHOW, THAT SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM, SINCE ALL OTHER PROGRAMS WORK FINE THAT ADDRESS THESE BURNER AND DECRYPTOR ISSUES. IRONICALLY, THE 3 FREE PROGRAMS: DVDSHRINK, SHRINKTO5(REAL GOOD PROGRAM) AND DVDDECRYPTOR ALL CAN NOT WORK ON THE WIN98 MACHINE!!! They all work well on my XP. Have you tried Shrinkt05.exe yet?
It is an upgrade or 2nd generation dvdshrink, since the program was banned, that is so easy TO USE, with much better video duplication than my purchased programs. Let me know WHAT YOU THINK, and worst case scenario is I just forget using those 3 programs on the win98se and, when needed , use them on my xp. The Win98se works too well to radically change things that could affect its other functions, that work perfectly, over the stupid dvdshrink issue and aspi. I would accademically, however, love to understand what is going on, but not at the misery of A reinstallation of the win98se os!! Again, a special appreciation for all your work ANDTIME YOU HAVE SPENT with me.

Miles

PS. SED ME A BILL IF YOU THINK NECESSARY!!!!!

[Taelon]

Miles, I understand that the other programs work for you, I'm just pointing out what appears to be a problem according to the Nero Info Tool log. I can send you a device manager log of the IDE/ATAPI CONTROLLERS? Sure that would be great.

I haven't tried ShrinkTo5 yet, I'm still a believer that DVDShrink is the best transcoder around and won't switch until someone can prove otherwise ;) PS. SED ME A BILL IF YOU THINK NECESSARY!!!!! heh, no need for that, I'd just like to see this strange problem resolved for you. :)

[benbryant]

HI again MILES E. STONE
It is totally strange to see the setup of your Interface Information: 2 hard drives with Secondary IDE Channel and 2 optical drives with Unknown Channel. So the question is how many IDE channels does your motherboard have? and where is the Primary IDE Channel. Please try to open the PC, disconnect the IDE cables from hard drives and optical drives, double-check which is primary and which is secondary IDE cables, connect ONLY your main hard drive (The one holds your OS) to the master end of the Primary IDE cable, and then connect your burner to the master end of the Secondary IDE cable. Boot your computer and check your Device Manager and Nero Info Tool again to see if your hard drive comes with the Primary Idle Channel and the burner comes with Secondary IDE Channel. If everything goes as expected, you can connect the rest of your hardwares. Tell you the truth, I don't like the Roxio Adaptec EasyCD Creator CD/DVD burning software you use. It causes all kind of funny problems that I rather copy DVD by hand, if I could, than use it for burning movies though

Regards

[MILES E. STONE]

HI again MILES E. STONE
It is totally strange to see the setup of your Interface Information: 2 hard drives with Secondary IDE Channel and 2 optical drives with Unknown Channel. So the question is how many IDE channels does your motherboard have? and where is the Primary IDE Channel. Please try to open the PC, disconnect the IDE cables from hard drives and optical drives, double-check which is primary and which is secondary IDE cables, connect ONLY your main hard drive (The one holds your OS) to the master end of the Primary IDE cable, and then connect your burner to the master end of the Secondary IDE cable. Boot your computer and check your Device Manager and Nero Info Tool again to see if your hard drive comes with the Primary Idle Channel and the burner comes with Secondary IDE Channel. If everything goes as expected, you can connect the rest of your hardwares. Tell you the truth, I don't like the Roxio Adaptec EasyCD Creator CD/DVD burning software you use. It causes all kind of funny problems that I rather copy DVD by hand, if I could, than use it for burning movies though

Regards
Taelon, I,m prtty sure that the hard drives are master and slave on primary Ide channel . The optical dtives are dvd burner master on secondary ide channel and dvd-rom (not -a -burner) is set to slave on the secondary ide channel. That might not be the best wat to set these drives up, but they work welll. Now on visual inspection, There is no qustion that HD 1 or the hard drive that boots Win98se is attached to the primary ide channel as the master and the 2n hard drive shares its ribbon bable and is the slave drive for the primary ide channel. The same for the secodary ide motherboard channel; burner is master, dvd-rom is secondary slave. I'll do what you said but I rather first uninstall easy roxio as I never use it, except that it was bundled with Power DVD which I like ver4. I do not know if uninctalling EASY CD creator, wouild uninstall powewr dvd but big deal. Possibly thts trashy progrAM INSTALLED IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM BY INTERFERING WITH THE SPI FOR DVDSHRINK? OOPS i just heard caps are innapproprite for posting---I'm sorry but can only one finger type. Tell me what you think about my thought before I go into this old computer and try loosening cables. By the way, this win98se is part of a home nertwork I configured with a wired linksys rutrer ,a 120gb network drive and 23 computer workstations, two of the 3 run win98se and the 3rd is the xp. The older 98se is a celeron cpu 400mhz and only has a cdrom drive. It all works well as I had no help and was very lucky 3 yrs ago connecting it

Guesss what...... THANKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

miles

[Taelon]

MES, Lets get a system report,
Select Start -> Run...
Type in and Enter, "msinfo32" (without the quotes)

In the System Information window under System Summary
Select Components, then select File -> Export
Type in a filename & Save it

The file will be about 60k, you can either attach the whole text file to a message or delete the Codecs, Adapters and Protocol sections if you want to.

[blutach]

Hi Miles - this is interesting. Have you actually tried uninstalling both channels and rebooting as Taelon and benbryant suggested? As well, you might like to implement the idea of installing the Nero ASPI suggested in this FAQ (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45464).

But I'm willing to be that it is the DVD drive that is not being recognised and this ties back to your ATA/ATAPI controllers.

Regards

[jm1647]

@Miles E. Stone - You posted "My main and only question is how to run the dvdshrink on the 98se. The following error comes on the screen after its icon is checked:" DVDSHRINK encountered an error and canot continue. It failed to initiate ASPI device. The network request is not supported".

Win98SE as I recall is known as one of the flakiest versions of Windows. I would reinstall Win98Se and try it as a standalone machine to try and isolate the problem first.

[MILES E. STONE]

Hi Miles - this is interesting. Have you actually tried uninstalling both channels and rebooting as Taelon and benbryant suggested? As well, you might like to implement the idea of installing the Nero ASPI suggested in this FAQ (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45464).

But I'm willing to be that it is the DVD drive that is not being recognised and this ties back to your ATA/ATAPI controllers.

Regards


blutach,
If that were the case why are all other dvd dwcryptors and burners, i.e. DVDXCOPYXPRESS,1CLICKDVDCOPY with ANYDVD working perfectly? These programs have no problem recognizing the e: PLEXTOR DRIVE the way it is.

ALSO, The Power DVD. and WinDVD have no problems playing dvds in either optical drive?
Thanks for your help, plese keep trying.
Miles

[jm1647]

@Miles - Did DVD Shrink ever work on this Win98SE machine? Have you tried a fresh install with it as a standalone?

[blutach]

blutach,
If that were the case why are all other dvd dwcryptors and burners, i.e. DVDXCOPYXPRESS,1CLICKDVDCOPY with ANYDVD working perfectly? These programs have no problem recognizing the e: PLEXTOR DRIVE the way it is.

ALSO, The Power DVD. and WinDVD have no problems playing dvds in either optical drive?
Thanks for your help, plese keep trying.
MilesI bguess that's a "no". It is not a risky process though.

Also, I have moved this thread to General Computing, as I feel it pertains more to the issues discussed there. Hope no-one minds :)

Regards

[Taelon]

still waiting for a system report (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showpost.php?p=306806&postcount=16)...

[MILES E. STONE]

still waiting for a system report (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showpost.php?p=306806&postcount=16)...
HI TAELON
i ran the msinfo file and trid to save it. It is > 1mb!!!!
How can i get this to you. From my novice quick look. i saw, it looks better than the previous? eroneous report not seeing the primary IDE channels?
I do not believe that i can attach thus >1mb file and i tried to zip like before with my Xtree for Windiows ans it causs all garble. Could i send you the module after it has collected the win98se os ,etc.by making a sending it to your email or some other place om y0ur forum,


miles

[jm1647]

try using yousendit and post a link for it. yousendit.com can handle files up to 1GB.

[Taelon]

Miles, please try again and make sure you highlight "Components" then Export the file. It should be well under 100k in size, at least that is how it works in XP. I'll double check it with 98SE tomorrow.

I'm glad the report seems to indicate the IDE channels are correct but would still like to see the log file. Could you also double-check the error message from DVDShrink, is it really saying the Network request isn't supported?

[MILES E. STONE]

Miles, please try again and make sure you highlight "Components" then Export the file. It should be well under 100k in size, at least that is how it works in XP. I'll double check it with 98SE tomorrow.

I'm glad the report seems to indicate the IDE channels are correct but would still like to see the log file. Could you also double-check the error message from DVDShrink, is it really saying the Network request isn't supported?
Thanks Taelon,
for the error message: the last sentence of the message doe say, "the Network isn't suppurted. I work on getting the components list to send later.
SLEEEP WELL AND ANOTHER THANKS

MILES

[MILES E. STONE]

Taelon,
I have the file msinfo-components, however i could only zip it down to 100k as taelon.zip. Will the board take this?
I'll place it in the bottom part of this note in attachments:

I hope you can get it.

Miles

[MILES E. STONE]

Miles, please try again and make sure you highlight "Components" then Export the file. It should be well under 100k in size, at least that is how it works in XP. I'll double check it with 98SE tomorrow.

I'm glad the report seems to indicate the IDE channels are correct but would still like to see the log file. Could you also double-check the error message from DVDShrink, is it really saying the Network request isn't supported?
Taleon
i'M HAVING problems sending you the component report from the win98 computer . I've attached it for you as info.zip in one of my last emails to you but apparently, since you have not responded, I assume you could not open it or never received it. Maybe, since the win98 computer is working otherwise so well, nowithstanding dvdshrink,etc., I should just leave it alone or at most uninstalling dvdshrink now that the force 1.7 has replaced the aspi layer, and then see if dvdshrink works after reinstalling it? If not, possibly just forgetting about using that program on that win98 computer. I bet the fix will screw up more than the gain of using dvdshrink which I can always use on my xp!!
Let me know what you think and if you would like or ever heard of the Shrinkto5 program..it's really better than dvd shrink and has its own css decrypter and better video free. Thank you for all your help, time, and great support.

miles

[Chewy]

Miles,
I have setup W98se on just a few computers this last couple of years,
first, it wasn't designed to handle 512 megs of ram, especially with a modern agp card. Second, I use directX 7.1 and IE 5.5, do windows update and
download the fastshutdown bug fix. Win98 is much faster than Wxp and for
that reason it's much more unstable, especially above 1 Ghz. Fat32 wasn't
meant for large hard drives >32 gigs. I hung out in the MS help groups
towards the end of W98se's life for a couple of years.
I only use W98se on computers in the sub gigahertz range and if vid memory
is less than 16 megs but system memory is over 128 megs I prefer W2k.
You're trying to run a porsche down a country gravel road that was designed
to handle a 56 chevy.

[MILES E. STONE]

Miles,
I have setup W98se on just a few computers this last couple of years,
first, it wasn't designed to handle 512 megs of ram, especially with a modern agp card. Second, I use directX 7.1 and IE 5.5, do windows update and
download the fastshutdown bug fix. Win98 is much faster than Wxp and for
that reason it's much more unstable, especially above 1 Ghz. Fat32 wasn't
meant for large hard drives >32 gigs. I hung out in the MS help groups
towards the end of W98se's life for a couple of years.
I only use W98se on computers in the sub gigahertz range and if vid memory
is less than 16 megs but system memory is over 128 megs I prefer W2k.
You're trying to run a porsche down a country gravel road that was designed
to handle a 56 chevy.
rbtp,
I'm sure you are right. I have two win98se computers connected to my 3 home network lan.The win xp, by far is the most stable, and slower than both win98se. I just wanted to get dvdshrink to work on the win98! I guess, I'll give up trying and anything new, play on the xp!! Using the win98 is like , "giving a dead man an enema" Thanks for your post,
Miles

[Taelon]

Hi Miles, sorry I wasn't online last night. I've just downloaded the .zip file however I can't view it in XP since you saved it as .NFO instead of exporting it as a text file. I'll try it in 98 later and see if I can view it.

[Chewy]

rbtp,
I'm sure you are right. I have two win98se computers connected to my 3 home network lan.The win xp, by far is the most stable, and slower than both win98se. I just wanted to get dvdshrink to work on the win98! I guess, I'll give up trying and anything new, play on the xp!! Using the win98 is like , "giving a dead man an enema" Thanks for your post,
Miles

It can be done, it just takes a clean install and a little extra work.
I find it easier to just optimize the bloated xp, since 98 drivers are
getting so long in the tooth, my xp setups are stable and Fasttttttt!

[MILES E. STONE]

Hi Miles, sorry I wasn't online last night. I've just downloaded the .zip file however I can't view it in XP since you saved it as .NFO instead of exporting it as a text file. I'll try it in 98 later and see if I can view it.
Hi,
Taelon, the reason I was unable to export the components file to you as a text file was as follows: About half way through the compilation to the export , the computer gave me a rectangular box error saying can not continue any further and must close down this program. I've tried it several times and always gives that error at the same place and stops. So I looked at the text file, half completed before the error occurred, and it is good until it hits the audio codecs and the cd roms portion of the components. Manually when I run msinfo32, I find the computer has no information to display for these areas and that might be the error that caused it to stop from completing the export .txt file in its entirety. I think you are absolutely right as there is some software\hardware confusion with this computer and the same reason, I'll bet is its failure to run dvdshrink!!! The ironic thing is that all other audio codec, video codecs, dvd, cd, recording and playing seem to not be troubled by this obvious quirk. By the way , I'm using directx 9.0. In view of this, rather than risking the ruination of other programs, ie. computer function, etc., I should take the approach, "if it's not broken don't fix it." I can always run the dvdshrink, dvddecrypter, and the new, shrinkto5 on my Win XP and notwithstanding this quirk, the win98se runs great (faster and less stable than the xp). :asskiss: Let me know what you think and I promise I will give this up and leave you alone!!! I hope you know the sincere appreciation I have for all the time, thought, support, and help you have given me.
Sincerely,
Miles