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jmet
21 Oct 2005, 12:23 AM
How to free up some system resources or system memory in XP


If your computer seems slower than it used to be, it probably is. Over time, computers get slower for a variety of reasons: files become disorganized, unnecessary software consumes resources, or too many programs automatically run at startup.

Back up your computer before you run any system tools or do any troubleshooting. This is not just an over-cautious warning. Some of the steps I recommend in this guide can cause pre-existing but hidden problems to surface, which may keep your computer from starting. Windows XP includes Backup, a tool that helps you protect your data.

To open the Backup or Restore Wizard

• Click Start, point to All Programs, point to Accessories, point to System Tools, and then click Backup.

Before I make any changes, I'm going to time my computer to see how long it takes to restart. That way I know which of the changes helps the most. My computer took about three minutes to shut down, restart, and then open my e-mail client and browser. Of course, I hope to improve the computer's overall performance, but the time it takes to restart is easiest to measure.

The next step in restoring your computer's performance is to identify any unnecessary programs that start automatically. Often, programs configure themselves to run in the background so that they appear to start quickly when needed. Some of these programs show an icon on your task bar to let you know that they're running, while others are completely hidden. These autostart programs probably won't noticeably slow down your computer as it starts up, but they will steal away trace amounts of memory and processing time as your computer runs.

Windows XP comes with the System Configuration tool (Msconfig.exe), an excellent way to manage the startup process. To start it:

1.
Click Start, click Run, type Msconfig, and then press Enter.

2.
On the Startup tab, you'll see a list of all the programs and processes that are set to run when Windows XP loads.

Alot of peoples "msconfig" window will look similar to this. (Basically a bunch of programs with a check mark in the box) (Screen Shot Below)

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/9585/msconfigstartuptabeverythingen.png

3.
Speed up your overall start time by clearing the check box next to any item you think you don't need.
If you aren't sure a program is unneeded—leave it!

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/3867/msconfigstartuptabneededredunn.png

4.
Click Apply, and then restart your computer for the changes to take effect.

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/2913/msconfigsettingsstartuptabdone.png

After clicking the "OK" button, this screen should pop up.

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/2722/msconfigclickoktorestart5zm.png

Just click the "Restart" button.

When Windows restarts, this window should pop up. Its just saying you made some changes to the start up folder. You can safely put a check mark in the box at the bottom that says "Don't show this message or launch the System Configuration Utility when Windows starts".

http://img420.imageshack.us/img420/4076/msconfigafterrestart0dl.png


Its also a good idea to remove any unnecessary programs. I install new programs all the time. Sometimes I'm thrilled with the new program and I continue to use it. Other times, it doesn't do what I hoped, and the program sits on my computer consuming resources and hurting performance.

Follow these steps to remove unneeded programs:

1.
Click Start, and then click Control Panel.

2.
Click Add or Remove Programs.

3.
Scroll through the list and examine each program. Windows XP lists how often you use a program and what day you last started it.

4.
Click each program you no longer need, click the Remove button, and then follow the prompts to uninstall it.


You may have to restart your computer after removing a program. After your computer restarts, repeat the steps above to remove more programs.

jm1647
5 Nov 2005, 09:11 AM
A handy little program to free up memory/resources without a reboot is MaxMem by AnalogX it is available here (http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/system/maxmem.htm)


Edit - I'm using XP Pro

codajohn
16 Feb 2006, 09:35 AM
Is there any way to have this program auto start at start up. I don't see any preferences.
I had used this program on my 98se. I liked it. No startup at boot?

techreactor
16 Feb 2006, 03:07 PM
Is there any way to have this program auto start at start up. I don't see any preferences.
I had used this program on my 98se. I liked it. No startup at boot?

Drag and drop the main executable in the Startup folder (in the menus).

codajohn
16 Feb 2006, 08:12 PM
Thank you! I knew there had to be a way.

codajohn
16 Feb 2006, 08:58 PM
I shouldn't have spoken so soon. I can't seem to get it to run at start up. I did what you said (maybe?). This is a 98se machine. I went to start>settings>Task bar & Startmenu>Add (command line)>Browse>"C:\My Documents\Tech .Tools\maxmemi.exe">next>next>finished.
When I boot up no start up.
CJ

codajohn
16 Feb 2006, 09:22 PM
I got it. Start Menu>Maxmem>drag/drop into Startup folder. Just like you said. Thank you.

codajohn
17 Feb 2006, 07:20 AM
One more question. Does this MaxMem program affect any Ripping/Editing or Burning operations?
I never worried about it because it was only on my 98se and couldn't figure out Startup.
It's now on my XP lap as well.
Thanks,
CJ

Chewy
17 Feb 2006, 07:24 AM
since a lot of these type programs are hard on memory and resources themselves, I would run it then close it down

edit: always specify which OS, 98 needed help with memory management, xp usually does ok

have you done all the standard W98 tweaks?

codajohn
23 Feb 2006, 05:00 AM
Chewy,
Yes, I have done 98 tweaks. I'm not sure if I have done them all. Is there a guide available. I had done a lot a long time ago. I couldn't say for sure which ones I have done. Any sites or guides would be appreciated. I have 512MB on both 98se and lap xp. I never experienced a memory error message on either machine.
Thanks,
CJ

Chewy
23 Feb 2006, 05:25 AM
http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html

see the 512 megs ram

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=253912

codajohn
23 Feb 2006, 07:42 AM
Thanks Chewy!

Chewy
23 Feb 2006, 08:17 AM
remember 98 is fast, but what makes xp slower, is what makes it stable

codajohn
24 Feb 2006, 01:41 AM
Just after I got my lap xp. I noticed that my 98se desktop was much faster then my xp. I had made some tweaks a long time ago like shutting down unnecessary startup programs, changing computer setting to be a network server and increased ram usage. All of these tweaks worked very well. I like xp but I haven't had the time like I had with 98se to look under the hood.

imike
24 Mar 2006, 01:50 AM
I have two PC, one is using OS win xp and the other one is win 98. I have been using win98 till now although I have the latest win xp because win 98 is faster. I don't want to wait for hour just to get my stuffs done. It will be time-consuming..

jmet
24 Mar 2006, 02:28 AM
Welcome to the <a href="http://forum.digital-digest.com/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_new_faq_item" target="_blank">Digital Video Forums</a> imike!

How much RAM is in the XP computer and how much RAM is in the 98 computer?

Kabuchan
17 May 2006, 11:47 AM
Off the topic, a little bit. I work at home as a call center agent-take orders for all those infomercials. I have to use XP and IE 6. I also have to allow pop-ups. Therefore I am constantly cleaning out cookies, temp files, and the Java cache.

Now I just saw a post at work that says when you clear your java cache, you should also do this...


--When you hit the clear button, the following list comes up ...

c: clear console window
f: finalize objects on finalization queue
g: garbage collect
h: display this help message
l: dump classloader list
m: print memory usage
o: trigger logging
p: reload proxy configuration
q: hide console
r: reload policy configuration
s: dump system and deployment properties
t: dump thread list
v: dump thread stack
x: clear classloader cache
0-5: set trace level to <n>
When I 'clear my cache', I hit 'g' for garbage collect, "l", "t", "v", then "x". I don't do this unless I'm completely out of chat. If my chat is slow while I'm in the VCC, then I just do the "g" and hit the clear button. It frees up lots of virtual memory.

I then go to internet options and delete my temporary files.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't see that when I clear cache. Is this something I am doing wrong? Do I have to do this? Will it help the speed of my PC?

Chewy
17 May 2006, 11:55 AM
what version of java do you all use at work?

Kabuchan
17 May 2006, 09:16 PM
I have Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition 1.4.2
Default Virtual Machine Version 1.4.2-b28
Java Plug-in 1.4.2

ed klein
17 May 2006, 09:29 PM
Here is a nice little program that will help you determine if you really need the program at start-up as shown in your msconfig.

http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php

This program will tell you how to safely remove the msconfig start-up programs in one of three different ways.

1. Within the software program itself on or off
2. Within the start-up folder
3. Within the registry and how to remove it.
:toast:

Chewy
17 May 2006, 09:30 PM
Default Virtual Machine Version 1.4.2-b28


Customers are encouraged to take proactive measures to stay informed about obsolete software and move away from the MSJVM in a timely fashion.

your java needs to be updated

http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010400.xml

offline admin installer

Kabuchan
18 May 2006, 05:01 AM
Alright, I have the Java updated, cleaned out my registry, virus scanned, got rid of the cookies and temp files...and I still don't see those buttons from my earlier post. Do I really need them, or am I doing okay on my own?

Chewy
18 May 2006, 05:39 AM
it's been streamlined, just go into control panel and access there?

Kabuchan
18 May 2006, 07:28 AM
I guess I'm good to go. Thanks Chewy and ed klein

JimS
1 Jul 2006, 05:24 AM
...
BlackViper used to be on the net and had some very good advice on what
one might do to improved Windows performance. But now BlackViper is no
more, I think, but here is a site that has most of his work:
http://majorgeeks.com/page.php?id=12
I have used his "safe" settings for some time and have had no problems.
...
I often used a site similair to the one ed klein mentioned above:
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
This will take you directly to info about most of what you will find in your startup group.
...

tonay
1 Jul 2006, 09:20 AM
I'm not as computer savy as Chewie but I use: Free Ram XP Pro 1.52. It seems to work well and is highly rated by Cnet.

Take a look.

http://www.download.com/3000-2086-10070530.html

If you see something wrong w/ this - let me know.

Chewy
3 Jul 2006, 05:02 PM
Windows xp does a lot better job of handling memory issues than previous versions of windows, however there's no substitute for real ram and running lean and mean.

tonay, if it works for you, good. Every case is unique.

jm1647
3 Jul 2006, 05:09 PM
I run XP Pro also and MaxMem by AnalogX works for me when I use it but I did not mention XP PRO when I mentioned it here (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showpost.php?p=312521&postcount=2)

Chewy
3 Jul 2006, 05:16 PM
jm,
how much ram are you running?

jm1647
3 Jul 2006, 05:23 PM
@Chewy back then only 448MB on that box in November....I haven't tried MaxMem on the other box with a GB of ram yet

Chewy
3 Jul 2006, 05:34 PM
with a gig you have already max mem'd the best way.

jm1647
3 Jul 2006, 05:37 PM
with a gig you have already max mem'd the best way.

I get some big swap files

Chewy
3 Jul 2006, 05:52 PM
Some programs may only use 100-200 MB but want to reserve a lot more
ram than that, so windows addresses a lot to the page file, usually the program never accesses the virtual ram.

MilesAhead
9 Jan 2007, 08:46 AM
Before it disappears completely I would recommend TuneXP 1.5.
I found one download link that still works:
http://www.computerworkscentral.com/downloads/TuneXP15.exe

I've been using it for several years with great results. I think the best tweaks
are, for NTFS, the "increase NTFS performance". This stops the OS from
updating the "last accessed" info on every file it touches. Your HD access
will speed up right away! Only thing outdated is under Hardware, "enable
UDMA 66" since most XP systems are prolly running at least UDMA 100 by
now and clicking it may get an error.. but it won't hurt anything. Another
good one is "Ultra Fast Booting" but I wouldn't use it unless you have a
UPS on your system. Don't want a power out in the middle of disk defrag
including boot files.

Abuilder
9 Jan 2007, 10:45 AM
Thanks, MilesAhead
That utility didn't do me any good because I'm not running XP, but that site has a lot of other good stuff and info on it. :)

MilesAhead
10 Jan 2007, 07:20 AM
You're welcome Abuilder. Not being a gamer I was kind of bummed
when The Screen Savers changed to Attack of the Show and became all
about gaming instead of system tweaks and tricks. A new PC with
XP on it takes about 3 hours of "fixing" to get most of the garbage off.

Screen Savers used to point out stuff like how to get rid of
auto updates, messaging, and where to get free utilities and system
tools. Now you pretty much have to keep googling for stuff yourself.
Like almost a part-time job. heh heh

Chewy
10 Jan 2007, 08:44 AM
It takes me about 5 to 10 minutes for my power user setup tweaks, and a few I don't reccomend for everyone

Abuilder
10 Jan 2007, 09:56 AM
It takes me about 5 to 10 minutes for my power user setup tweaks, and a few I don't reccomend for everyone
Like system restore? The resource hog ;)

Gary D
10 Jan 2007, 10:02 AM
I would love to turn off system restore but with a wife, a 3 year old and 2 year old on this computer, it has saved me a lot of trouble and time when I use it.

BTW: It is usually my 3 year old doing the "tweaking"! :rotfl:

AlienX69
10 Jan 2007, 10:12 AM
Norton Ghost was a BIG resource HOG for me (removed it), I can live with system restore, same reason, my 6 yr old son (the Master Tweeker) .... !!!!

AX

Chewy
10 Jan 2007, 10:27 AM
after you turn off system restore then you delve into services and that's gets hairy quickly, about like tweaking a full blown bios

just buy a 4 ghz quad core with a 4 gigs of very fast ram and a couple of raid striped raptor sets and forget the tweaks

Abuilder
10 Jan 2007, 10:41 AM
Ya But the $$$$$$$$$$
ouch