Processing time

[techreactor]

How much time does it take on an average(by experience), if we have to use DVD-RB with HC Enc to rebuild a commercial movie.

This is taking into assumption that the menus have been shrinked and the extras have been removed from the original DVD. Lets say a 7 GB of the DVD left for conversion using DVD-RB.

And the processing is done on a Pentium system with decent ram.

[blutach]

Budget on overnight - 6-7hrs on "best"

Regards

[UncasMS]

here are a couple of encoding-only times:

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=55813

OPV mode was used however and no pentium

[Chewy]

Uncasms, so you are beating the 1/1 ratio (126 min main movie + 35 min extras = 161 minutes)/(32 bit sse mmx 113 min ) inverse oops!
how long for a rebuild and preperation?

[nwg]

The encoding time for me with HC is 6 hours plus 20 minutes for rebuilding with a Athlon XP 2000, 512MB RAM.

[BR7]

Using HC mine takes 314min

[UncasMS]

Uncasms, so you are beating the 1/1 ratio (126 min main movie + 35 min extras = 161 minutes)/(32 bit sse mmx 113 min ) inverse oops!
how long for a rebuild and preperation?

keep in mind that i said OPV mode not 2pass mode

a normal 2 pass took 221 min (cant remember which idct was used) and thus opv took only approx. 51% of the time needed for 2 passes

preparing took 3 min, rebuilding 10 min for this title (van helsing)

[raddad]

I just started using DVD-RB.
It took about 710 minutes to do a movie only no extras or menus of a 6Gig file on a P3 with 640 of ram.:badpc:

OT question, Is it ok to delete all the files in the WORKING folder and the D2VAVS folder after i'm done burning?Is there a setting to do this automatically?

Using V0.96 with the HC encoder set to BEST

[UncasMS]

having checked your created material and found it flawless you can of course delete those directories

maybe you might want to keep the logfile for some time as questions can turn up a couple of times later on and a logfile can help when searching for answers

[raddad]

Ok thanks,I've got some more questions about using DVD-RB and bitrates. I'll do some searching first.

[UncasMS]

dont hesitate but please start a new thread

[hank315]

For me a 120 min. movie takes about 150-160 min. with 2 pass and best settings.
Running a P4 3200 @ ~3500 MHz, 1 GB ram.

[UncasMS]

so you're saying that is the time to beat then, hank, dont you?

i'll try to pick ~120 min title tonight and see how long it'll take

in case my time will be slower i'll blame you for using a special optimized version, which you must have kept for yourself so far

:evilwink:

[Chewy]

it's optimized for P4 not amd64

[UncasMS]

i know

the more curious i am to see how well an amd can do ^_~

[Chewy]

they can't hide from the venus, as long as intel has to liscense
the instruction sets and play fair.
of course after hank gets his x2 amd 64

[hank315]

in case my time will be slower i'll blame you for using a special optimized version, which you must have kept for yourself so far :evilwink:LOL, just used the latest 016 :)

Time to beat? Think that shouldn't be so hard, my system is already pretty old, the newer CPU's should be faster than mine...
The Celeron D proc. also runs HC very fast, they also have SSE3 extensions.
The nice thing about the P4 HT is you can run an encoder and do the usual stuff at the same time, the encoder only takes one thread so the CPU is max. at 50%.
CCE manages to take about 80% on a P4 HT.

Here's the log from a test I ran last night, not done with DVD-RB but that will make no difference regarding time.
It's the Matrix 2, intro and credits are skipped.


--------------------------------------------
| HCbatch - MPEG2 encoder - rel. 0.16 beta |
--------------------------------------------
input: d:\mvfiles\matrix2.d2v
output: d:\mvfiles\out.m2v
--------------------
| encoder settings |
--------------------
profile: BEST
frames: 791 182885
framerate: 25.00
aspect ratio: 16:9
bitrate Kb/s: 4611
max. bitrate Kb/s: 9000
closed gops: no
VBV check: yes
scene change det.: yes
interlaced: no
goplen,B-pic: AUTO
dc_precision: 9
scan method: ZIGZAG
bias: 10
chapter frames: 0
time code: 0 0 0 0
CPU: SSE3
matrix: QLB
--------------------
| source stats |
--------------------
nr. of frames in source: 199192
width*height: 720*576
fps: 25.00
nr. of frames to encode: 182095
frames to encode: 791 - 182885
---------------------
| encoding - pass 1 |
---------------------
pass 1 encoding time: 1:22:43 (4963 s)
average fps: 36.7
--------------------------------
| encoding - intermediate pass |
--------------------------------
bitrate set to: 4611000 b/s
est. outfile length: 4099805 kB
intermediate encoding time: 0.5 s
---------------------
| encoding - pass 2 |
---------------------
pass 2 encoding time: 1:08:57 (4137 s)
average fps: 44.0
------------------
| encoding stats |
------------------
total encoding time: 2:31:41 (9101 s)
intra matrix used
8 16 19 22 26 27 29 34
16 16 22 24 27 29 34 37
19 22 26 27 29 34 37 39
22 22 26 27 29 34 38 42
22 26 27 29 32 36 40 50
26 27 29 32 36 40 50 61
26 27 29 35 40 50 59 75
27 29 35 40 50 59 75 89
non-intra matrix used
16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 25
18 19 20 21 22 23 24 26
19 20 21 22 23 24 26 28
20 21 22 23 25 26 28 29
21 22 23 24 26 28 29 31
22 23 24 26 28 29 31 34
23 24 25 28 29 31 34 38
nr. of gops: 13438
nr. of frames: 182095
nr. of I-frames: 13438
nr. of P-frames: 54052
nr. of B-frames: 114605
average quant (non linear): 3.529
VBV underflows detected: 7
VBV underflows fixed: 7
minimum bitrate: 270
maximum bitrate: 8997
average bitrate: 4611

[blutach]

There you go, run it on Matrix 2. Movie's time is not the factor - there are plenty of 2hr movies which are 5Gb and lots of others that are 7Gb (excluding audio).

Let's have a fair test!

Regards

[hank315]

of course after hank gets his x2 amd 64
Hm.., some years ago I promised myself not to use an AMD ever again because of *very* bad experience with AMD.
Unstable, *very* hot, 55 C (idle) - 90 C (full load), if the cooler brakes down they vaporize within a second etc...
Seems the later CPU's are alot better but still have nightmare's about AMD. :angry:
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[UncasMS]

ok, i found a source which has a similar number of frames to yours:
189.243

we'll see tomorrow

[Chewy]

Unstable, *very* hot, 55 C (idle) - 90 C (full load), if the cooler brakes down they vaporize within a second etc...
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sounds like the new intel cpu's

[blutach]

I had a problem with AMD fan. Clogged up, busted, system overheated. Lucky it didn't fry the CPU. But I did go out and get new good fans!

Regards

[nwg]

I have had a Athlon XP for a few years now. It has never run hot. It idles at around 32 degrees and never goes above 40 under load.

[Chewy]

I have had a Athlon XP for a few years now. It has never run hot. It idles at around 32 degrees and never goes above 40 under load.

It was either a museum piece that got missed or you got a heck of a
heatsink/fan on it. cooler climate?

[nwg]

It was either a museum piece that got missed or you got a heck of a
heatsink/fan on it. cooler climate?


It's a Athlon XP 2000, nothing special. The heatsink is nothing special either. The one that came from with the cpu did run slightly hotter at around 38 degrees idle.

http://www.apah20.dsl.pipex.com/computer/fan2.jpg

[UncasMS]

the xp 2000+ i had (palomino core) ran pretty hot btw


my testrun has finished with the 126 min source (not matrix2) + HC 016F + matrix QLB:
[04:06:53] Phase II ENCODING completed in 174 minutes.


so i guess i'm runner-up here ^_~

[Chewy]

It's a Athlon XP 2000, nothing special. The heatsink is nothing special either. The one that came from with the cpu did run slightly hotter at around 38 degrees idle.

http://www.apah20.dsl.pipex.com/computer/fan2.jpg

custom HSF mount/clean case/cooler climate/good case venting/

there's a lot of variance between cpu's with the same
specs/core/stepping, but the builder did a good job.

[Chewy]

2:31:41 = 152
(174-152)/152 = 14% slower
@
(3.5-2.2)/3.5 = 37% lower core clock

uncasms, time to open the window, take the side off the case,
go back into bios

just kidding, not really

[UncasMS]

my cooling is decent

only yesterday did i attach another 80x80 fan with a higher speed than my usual pabst fans and installed a switch to the front of my case in order to be able to switch this noisy sucker on/off when needed

full load - cce running:
http://www.digital-digest.com/~uncasms/fan01.jpg

normal usage:
http://www.digital-digest.com/~uncasms/fan02.jpg


uncasms, time to open the window

i better dont:

=>> http://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/bildstrecke/128/65063/image_fmbg_0_8-1133016044.jpg

this is what it looks like here since friday morning