dvd + or dvd -

[discman]

ive been reading a lot in the forums about the dvd-format not being recommended for burning.to test this theory i bought a pack of these.and hey presto my dvdcombi loves them.as does my playstation 2 and they are hard too please when it comes to blank media.so why do theses not come recommended.and what is other peoples experiences of the dvd-format?........

[locoeng]

If looking merely at the format -R discs have a wider range of compatability with stand alone players, it was the first format introduced therefore it has been around longer and more older players support this format over +R flavored discs. If you look at what you can do with the discs as well, you'll notice that -R discs aren't capable of being booktyped to DVD_ROM (commercial DVD). The +R discs can do this, thus increasing the compatability on more players, including some players that will only read -R discs. So the reasoning behind recommending +R over -R isn't necessarily an arguement over which one is better, but more of which one has a higher compatability rate. +R discs alone without being booktyped have a lower compatability rate, but once booktyped that all changes.

[discman]

good post,i also suppose its the old adage what ever works best for you.....PS most modern players play anything and everthing....

[blutach]

They both seem to have a very high compatibility rate these days as old aliiances recognised that both formats are here to stay and built their players to recognise both formats.

If anything, the +Rs are more compatible - they can be booktyped and their refelctivity is the same as DVD-VIDEO.

Regards

[LT. Columbo]

and if i recall, the -R has a whopping 6MB extra space? wow!:p

[locoeng]

and if i recall, the -R has a whopping 6MB extra space? wow!:p

An advantage overlooked....thanks again LT.:)

[Chewy]

I have had more luck with dvd dash R's than plus, I am still evaluating bitsetting. But it seems to be the way to go as software, firmware and hardware evolve to implement it.

[LT. Columbo]

i've always considered +media devilish, tainted. -R is pure, wholesome and gives a warm fuzzy feeling when you look at the package. when ones players hate + you may feel this way too.:p

[Chewy]

someday you'll get a new burner and someone will give you a +R disk and you will experiment and find they play when bitsett, if we live that long

:rotfl:

friendly banter

[discman]

well since switching to -my wife cant tell the diff between my backups and my originals.now that is a quality burn......

[LT. Columbo]

someday you'll get a new burner and someone will give you a +R disk and you will experiment and find they play when bitsett, if we live that long

:rotfl:

friendly banter

don't forget i have the newer lite on which will handle +R. if someone ever gave me a +R disc i'd smash it to pieces on the spot!:p

[locoeng]

I would send you one, but if your just going to smash it I won't bother..:rotfl:

[LT. Columbo]

lol

[locoeng]

I could even print out a nice label to stick on it once you've burned...:smashead:

[LT. Columbo]

since you are aquainted with the rules discman, you should be aware of rule 17. this is "friendly banter" which in moderation is perfectly acceptable here and there.

[jm1647]

I use nothing but +R booktyped\bitset to DVD-R0M now and lend out some of my backups for other people to watch and give back. Not one of them has said they would not play. When I was using -R some said they would not play in their players. I'm not sure what brand of players they have. :toast: :beer:

[locoeng]

I use nothing but +R booktyped\bitset to DVD-R0M now and lend out some of my backups for other people to watch and give back. Not one of them has said they would not play. When I was using -R some said they would not play in their players. I'm not sure what brand of players they have. :toast: :beer:

Same here...in fact I switched to +R so I could booktype them to see if they had a higher degree of compatability because not all of the -R's could be viewed by my friends.

[discman]

most modern players play them mines is just out the box and they play minted.so im sticking with them they work for me..

[jm1647]

most modern players play them mines is just out the box and they play minted.so im sticking with them they work for me..

I have 2 Apex players and a LiteOn standalone recorder (which is also set to booktype\bitset to DVD-ROM now) in my house that play either + or - media also. I myself never had a problem with -R it was friends and family that did, that is why I switched to the DVD-ROM setting. :toast: :beer:

[discman]

i think originally when players were developed their specification was r.o.m.then came the dvd-format then dvd+and so on .it also depends on the player quality as well.......

[CrazyMonster]

its funny i use Memorex and its shows its good, but do you think its good? have you guys burn one yet ??

[Chewy]

I threw about 50 of the sob's away after i found out how bad they were,
redoing that many backups really burned me up with Memorex

[locoeng]

The funny thing is that Memorex work fine for some people...the real question is for how long?

[volfann]

I have yet to try a -R disc. Out of about 400 backups never had a +R that wouldn't play. Tried them on various players.
Did have issues with Memorex discs though. Seem to wear out quickly if you view them alot. I use only Sony D21 now and get great results. Anyone else notice the weight difference in discs. Sony feels heavier than Memorex to me. Real or imagined???:toast:

[LT. Columbo]

maybe the sonys are heavier:) quality? i have some memorex about 2 years old now and many viewed dozens and dozens of times still don't miss a beat. i am blessed.:p

[volfann]

I am going to buy a few -R next time I purchase blanks just to experiment with. At times I have seen them priced lower than my +R .:)
I'm blessed with 3 sticky fingered rug rats. That could be part of my problem with Memorex disc life..LOL

[Donovan]

I guess I bought into the "-R is more compatable" theory from so long ago.... that's all I've ever bought.

[locoeng]

I guess I bought into the "-R is more compatable" theory from so long ago.... that's all I've ever bought.

Way back when it probably was true...but now you know the possibilities of the +R format.

[Chewy]

I favor the cheapest made in japan blanks.
It's nice to be able to bitsett but for long term storage it's not relavent.

[locoeng]

It's nice to be able to bitsett but for long term storage it's not relavent.

So true chewy...

[webrider]

I am kind of new to this stuff. If it's not to stupid a question what is "booktyped" ?:smashead: :smashead:

[katzdvd]

http://forum.digital-digest.com/member.php?u=38250

Read blutach sig under media & burning - "what's bitsetting";

It will tell you everything you need to know!

regards, katz :)