Nero 6.6.1.4 Dual Layer DVD Burning Question

[nrok45]

Hello this is my first post here and I have a question about how to burn a Dual Layer DVD+R with Nero OEM version 6.6.1.4. I have a Lite-On DVD-RW drive with dual layer write capability it's product model number is: SHM-165H6S04C if you made need to know it.

My problem I am having is that eveytime I try to make a DVD video with Nero and the project size is over DVD-5 capacity it tells me I need a Dual Layer DVD disc to burn the project onto. I have 2 types of Dual Layer discs that I am trying to use which are:Verbatim DVD+R DL discs, and HP DVD+R DL discs. When I put either one of the two types of Dual Layer discs into the dvd-rw drive Nero never recognise's it and keeps telling me that I need a DVD-9 disc to burn the project. I was wondering if maybe there was a way to maybe to change a setting or something in Nero to make it recognise the Dual Layer disc.

Any help is very much appreciated, thanks in advance :)

[blutach]

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First, is your firmware up to date?

Second, stick to the Verbatims.

Third, you might consider ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com), whihc is an infintely better solution than Ner0 (and free).

Fourth, read and implement the Golden Rules of Burning (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49635).

Fifth, I've transferred this thread to the Blank Media and Burning forum (http://forum.digital-digest.com/forumdisplay.php?f=69).

Sixth, http://www.digital-digest.com/~blutach/gl3.gif

Regards

[nrok45]

Thanks for the nice welcome :)
I've made sure that the firmware is up to date for my Nero and the reason I wanted to stay with Nero is because of the features of creating menus and customising everything myself. The video I am trying to get onto the disk is not a DVD backup of a movie it is a video file I had gotten from the internet.

The size of the file is 700mb and when I bring it into Nero I want the quality to be it's best bringing the size to aroung 7gb. So if maybe you or anyone else can help me out I would appreciate any help :)

P.S. -- Sorry about posting in the wrong thread :o

[blutach]

Now you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear.

Re-encoding to 7Gb is not going to make better quality. You can't fill in the bits where there were none before.

This file (I presume it is an AVI and I hope you have observed rule 6 (http://forum.digital-digest.com/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#6)), can simply be burned to a CD and played in Media Player Classic or VLC.

Or to play on a standalone player, convert it to DVD format with Ner0 Vision Express (I am not sure if it does that and if so, how good a job), and burn to a DVD-5. But don't expect one iota of an increase in quality.

Regards

[nrok45]

First of all the video I am trying to burn is not pirated material, and the quality difference between the extended play, long play, and high quality setting choices that I can choose from in Nero are noticeable when I watch the discs that I have made using each of the quality settings on different videos. The only thing I am trying to figure out at this point is just how to get Nero to burn a dual layer dvd for me.

[Chewy]

If the source video is about 90 minutes long(700MB?), high quality will almost fill a dl disk, but have you tried custom and setting it to a high enough bitrate to fill a single layer disk, and using 2 pass?

Out put to you hard drive and check on computer for quality, or then you can even burn with ImgBurn, a better dual layer solution if you have to have dual layer.

[Chewy]

BTW firmware is for your dvd burner, not nero, what is your burner and what version of vision are you using?

[nrok45]

My burner is a Lite-On DVD - + RW with Dual Layer capability. The model number is SHM-165H6S04C. I just downloaded the updated firmware for it and I dont think that helped but atleast its up to date now :p

My nero is the OEM version that came with my burner and I just updated that too to version 6.6.1.4.

[Chewy]

what version of vision are you using

I am using NeroVision Express 3(3.1.0.21), seperate update

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are you doing the conversion process as a 2 step, first to the hard drive and then trying to burn?

[nrok45]

yeah i'm almost done trancoding the video with vision express (my version is 3.1.0.25) and am going to try and burn the video when it's done with imgburn using a dual layer disc.

[Chewy]

ImgBurn does a much better job, pay careful attention to the layer break,
that's where nero drops the ball.

[nrok45]

If it's not too much explanation could you tell me what the layer break is? Also will I have to worry about this with imgburn, or will it take care of it on it's own?

[Chewy]

layer break is where the layer's change in the burn, the guides are in the imgburn forum

http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1780

[nrok45]

Alright now when I am trying to make the disc using imgburn I get an error when i'm trying to calculate the space that the video will take up on the disc saying - "Unable To Find Any Cells That Can Be Used For The Layerbreak!"

Can you help me out with this?

[Chewy]

wait for blutach

[nrok45]

Oh wait I think I figured it out I just need to create chapters for the layer break to have a place to be put, well I think that is the problem anyways so i'll give it a try.

[blutach]

You need a cell that obeys the LB rules (so that after breaking the layer at that cell, L0 > L1). It is also right to have the break at a sector divisible by 16.

Again, do consider a DVD-5.

Regards

[nrok45]

It's alright now i've gotten everything to work out just fine :toast:

Thanks to you Blutach and Chewy for all of the awesome help you gave me on this subject! I'll definately come back if I have any other problems :p

[Gonyx]

Hi guys... well i've been surfing for this post and i kinda have the same problem.
Let me explain it:
I have a Sony Dvd Rw Dw-q28a KYS3 which is able to write dual layer discs. It reads them fine but the thing is when i try to write on them. I've tried to burn more than 6 Gb of data on Nero (same message when making a back up of a DL DVD in CloneDVD2) and it keeps sending me the "
Disc not writable
Disc needed for this compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD R-R/RW, DVD+R9 Double Layer
Type of disc in media: empty"

I've checked the firmware and its ok, tried different brands of DVD DL media... It cant be the software 'cause i've tried different and they all say the same...
My brother has a LG DVD RW H10A and has the same problem...
So... any ideas?

I've attached the info tool.txt so you guys can look at it
any help would be highly appreciated!

[Chewy]

what brands and types of disks are you using?

[Gonyx]

Ridata and Verbatim... dont know the types. i guess i'll have to try something else... dont you think? any clue?

[Chewy]

the verbatimsDL are dvd+r? not dvd-r?

[nrok45]

Alright I got through this problem by just using nero to create the project like you normally would but instead of burning to a disc you should use the option to save the project on your hard drive.

After you have done that use imgburn to burn the video onto the disc. I could never get nero to burn the disc so I just used imgburn instead and got exactly what I wanted. Oh and remember when you make your video to include chapters so that imgburn will have a spot to make the layer break. Also I would say use Verbatim DVD+R DL discs for your media, they're excellent discs.

Hope this helps :toast: