Staples DVD-R......any good???

[ahill84006]

Hello,

I am a newbie at burning. I recently purchased (2) 50pk 16 x DVD-R from Staples. Are these things any count? Should I just use them for other things besides movies, and purchase some different ones??

If so, what are the best to buy? I have been looking at other threads, and it seems to me that Verbaitum, and Sony are pretty good. Are there any others I should look for????

Thanks in advance, for all of your help!!!!

[jm1647]

I use the Staples Brand 8X and !6X +R media with no problems. My burners like the 8X a lil better than the 16X but I burn them both at 12X speed. They are made by CMC which also makes DVDs for Verbatim

[berdman]

JM,

According to Digital FAQ.com Video Guides, CMC Magnetics is a 3rd/4th class media.....why buy this when you can get a 1st class media for the same price ( if not lower) if you do your shopping correctly. Best Buy has good sales on Verbatim every now and then with a media code of MMC 01RG20( Mitsubishi) . I recently bought some of the new 16X Maxcell's and TDK's only to find out that these normally ranked 1st class media are no longer, they are now out sourcing these to Prodisc and CMC. Buyer beware!!!

Just a thought...

[locoeng]

I thought the Staples brand coded out as Ritek? Either way, Verbatim doesn't use CMC anymore to my knowledge. It is all about compatability anyway, I personally prefer Verbatims or Taiyo Yuden. All of my Verbatims have coded as MCC.

[olyteddy]

Basic Information
Disc type: : DVD-R
Book Type : DVD-R
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : MBI 01RG40
Write speeds: : 4 X - 8 X - 12 X - 16 X
That's what Nero says about my stack. Made in India, Staples Part # 623616.

[locoeng]

Moser Bauer...they make TDK as well, might be worse than CMags, certainly aren't any better.

[Chewy]

Verbatim doesn't use CMC anymore to my knowledge

as a mid/dye but cmc makes the better mcc004 disks for verbatim


MBI has made some damn good blanks upon occasion
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showpost.php?p=471966&postcount=92

[locoeng]

While not a horrific QS, I can't acheive the same results with MBI's.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h162/locoeng/mbi.png

[Chewy]

what I have been seeing is mbi and cmc mag approach verbatim in quality

they are getting better and verbatim is slipping slightly, with the gap narrowing

probably caused by the same thing, the standards that verbatim requires and
us customers demanding a better product

[locoeng]

I've heard alot of reports of Verbatims quality slipping, but I've had no issues...haven't used any in a while because I'm working through a pack of TY's, but Verbatim will get their chance in my machine soon enough.

[jm1647]

JM,

According to Digital FAQ.com Video Guides, CMC Magnetics is a 3rd/4th class media.....why buy this when you can get a 1st class media for the same price ( if not lower) if you do your shopping correctly. Best Buy has good sales on Verbatim every now and then with a media code of MMC 01RG20( Mitsubishi) . I recently bought some of the new 16X Maxcell's and TDK's only to find out that these normally ranked 1st class media are no longer, they are now out sourcing these to Prodisc and CMC. Buyer beware!!!

Just a thought...

I think they are using old data or feedback. With my LiteOn Burners using Staples DVD+R 8x and 16Xwith CMC and MBI MIDS I have used and burn at 12X on them all with no problems and good QS scores scanned in the LiteON burner that burned them. I buy Verbatim 8x and 16X also along with the Staples brand, but you'll never find the Verbs for $15 to $20 a hundred with the Staples sales.

Good burns is all dependent on the burner/firmware/media combo. Some burner/firmware combos like some media and some don't :toast: :beer:

[berdman]

The feedback is up-to-date (11-2-06), on the last part of the page they are showing the new 16X media and comparing what medias have changed manufactures and as I said before TDK & MAXCELL have changed from 1st class mfg's to the lower classes. I just feel more comfortable using the better ones and lets not forget about "ARCHIVAL QUALITY". But as you said if it works for you and your happy, that's what counts . Later, Dudes

[Chewy]

The feedback is up-to-date (11-2-06), on the last part of the page they are showing the new 16X media and comparing what medias have changed manufactures and as I said before TDK & MAXCELL have changed from 1st class mfg's to the lower classes. I just feel more comfortable using the better ones and lets not forget about "ARCHIVAL QUALITY". But as you said if it works for you and your happy, that's what counts . Later, Dudes

It's much more complicated than all that, the site in question is very out of date and one can not generalize about media without sacrificng accuracy.

Many factors come into play and it takes a long time to "see the forest for the trees"

These I have found to be true
1. Taiyo Yuden made media stands alone as the most consistent, highest quality single layer made in the last 2 years and still available
2. Verbatim, after a shakey start, has firmly grabbed the second place.
Since they do not make single layer anymore and have to rely on cmc, prodisc and mbi, there is more inconsistency than with TY blanks.
3. Sony is producing fairly consistent blanks and I consider them a safe buy,
even if their quality is slightly lower than verbatim
4. Many of the cmc mag's, prodisc and mbi manufactured and mid'd disks are higher quality now and it's dangerous to call them garbage or landfill material.

and first and foremost remember there are exceptions to every rule

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?&next=50
actually contains a wealth of information, learning to use it is another matter

[berdman]

Thanks for input Chewy:thanks2:

[camellote]

In my experience, DigitalFaq's list is not accurate. It's OK as a starting point, but only that. The BestBuy Verbatim that Berdman mentions, the -R are MCC 03RG20 and the +R are MCC004 (both are very good), and they are frequently on sale at BB, OfficeDepot, OfficeMax or Microcenter for $13-$15 per 50-disk spindle.
If you shop around you'll find great bargains. Last month I bought several packs of Verbatim 16X -R @ $8 per 50-disk spindle. I also got Sony 16X +R @ $5 per 100-disk spindle.

Regarding the MCC 01RG20 media that berdman mentions, the only ones that you might find are the Verbatim Digital Movie disks, and those are usually $13 per 25-disk spindle (I have not seen DataLifePlus 4X recently).

[berdman]

All said, in "most" cases you never know what your getting until you open the pack and read who the manufactor is , just because you bought TKD or Maxcell doesn't mean it 1st class media. You wouldn't believe how many I returned.

In my experience, DigitalFaq's list is not accurate. It's OK as a starting point, but only that. The BestBuy Verbatim that Berdman mentions, the -R are MCC 03RG20 and the +R are MCC004 (both are very good), and they are frequently on sale at BB, OfficeDepot, OfficeMax or Microcenter for $13-$15 per 50-disk spindle.
If you shop around you'll find great bargains. Last month I bought several packs of Verbatim 16X -R @ $8 per 50-disk spindle. I also got Sony 16X +R @ $5 per 100-disk spindle.

Regarding the MCC 01RG20 media that berdman mentions, the only ones that you might find are the Verbatim Digital Movie disks, and those are usually $13 per 25-disk spindle (I have not seen DataLifePlus 4X recently).

[locoeng]

All said, in "most" cases you never know what your getting until you open the pack and read who the manufactor is , just because you bought TKD or Maxcell doesn't mean it 1st class media. You wouldn't believe how many I returned.

A good rule of thumb is to look for "Made in Japan" on the label...the exception to this would be Verbatim.

[ReplicantRoy]

In my experience, Staples brands have given me the most coasters out of any other generic brand. Very poor quality, IMHO. Lowest grade CMC's.

It's better to spend a little more for better quality.


I am a newbie at burning. I recently purchased (2) 50pk 16 x DVD-R from Staples. Are these things any count? Should I just use them for other things besides movies, and purchase some different ones?

[MRPINKERTON]

Over the last 4 months I have gone through 1 100 pack of Sony, and 100 Maxell 16x -r with 12% failure on each. That is horrible for such namr brand companies. 12 disks each in the trash.

[camellote]

Coasters are the end result of several factors: media + burner + firmware. You also have to take into account the speed you're burning dvds, your computer memory & free resources.

Now, regarding Staples media, I wouldn't buy their 16X disks at any price (but that's only my opinion)

[Chewy]

if you dot your i's and cross your t's, you can burn most blanks with less than a 1 or 2 percent faliure ratio, of course in 6 months those playable disks may degrade to the point they are hard to read

doing everything right with premium media give years not months of back up
security

[AlienX69]

doing everything right with premium media give years not months of back up security

I'll second that ....

Many years before getting into the DVD recordables, I had someone at job backup some IMPORTANT data to CD's (cheapo's). I didn't know and obviously the IT Group didn't understand quality media (they supplied the discs). The dye peeled right of the plastic ..... horror .... I was luckly and retreived about 90% of the data off the 7-8 discs.

So when I starting doing DVD backups I knew media was a VERY important key !!! Started off with TY's and Ritek's, all TY's now. Did a lot of research before making my 1st backup.

Regards,
AX

[gonwk]

Hi ahill,

I suppose you have gotten your answer ...

I was wondering which dvd burner are you using? And can it bitset?
Because some of the burners are picky and will not work too well with various DVD blanks.

If your DVD burner can bitset then I would go with DVD+R's to bitset as DVD-ROM for most compatibilty ... but they tend to be pricier than DVD-Rs.

If you trying to keep to reasonable price then go with DVD-R's ... but as mentioned above get Verbs or Taiyo ... IF you want to archive for a long, long time.

G!