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[jblitz277]

Ok I have decided not to put any more money into my cpu and have decided to start fresh and build one I'm fine picking harddrives & burners but know absolutely nothing about processors and motherboards I want it to be able to run multiple apps at same time and support both gaming and video. It will probably take 2 months economically to finish can anyone help me with the motherboard and processor I want one that's very up to date all my current hardware is ide so one that I can use my stuff on is ideal but if that's not wise I will buy sata

[Chewy]

I want one that's very up to date all my current hardware is ide so one that I can use my stuff on is ideal but if that's not wise I will buy sata

that's the conflict

ide is being phased out

you can build a good computer with dual core and try to stay away from the newest motherboards, save money and keep ide

[jblitz277]

I'd rather go sata because I plan on building something to last 3-4 years and if I buy sata and upgrade then I can transfer my hardware

[jblitz277]

dont they make a pci card for sata boards that supports ide?

[Chewy]

pci controller cards work great for ide hard drives but are problematic with
dvd burners

[jblitz277]

well that's actually ok because i just bought a western digital caviar 320gb like 3 months ago The whole prob is i want a video card but my board is agp 8x so if i buy a good one and then get a new cpu next year its useless I have an insufficient power supply and my ram is ddr400 i have 752mb i want more but at the price of ram to buy more for this cpu is senseless again because next year it's useless / my problem is I know absolutely nothing about boards or processors that match

[jblitz277]

I should add that I need another harddrive any way I didn't know about partitioning so I mine aswell go sata again for longevity reasons

[jm1647]

I got a coupla Maxtor PCI SATA/150 controller cards that do (2) SATA I and (2) IDE drives and work good in the boxes they are in :toast: :beer:

[Chewy]

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=80808

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=80998

take some time and read up at newegg, it's a very steep mountain and you can't train ard enough

[jblitz277]

ok I spent hours looking and I think I found a good mobo
Asus P5N-E SLI NVIDIA 650i Socket 775 ATX
it looks to me that I can upgrade it later,it supports sli and has Ide header the processors it supports look upgradable as well and I'm looking at the intel 6400 any thoughts?

[Chewy]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115004

pricey but very good

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131142

PATA 2 x ATA100 up to 4 Devices

looks good

[jblitz277]

not to change subjects but your not near southeastern pennsylvania r u

[jblitz277]

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2205992&CatId=2259
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2739683&CatId= 1826
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3042997&CatId=1846
and ther she is throw in 2 500gb western digital and i should just stay shy of $1000

[Chewy]

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2882686&sku=O261-8070

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2240435&CatId=2264

I like seagate's and I spent a week in the poconos long ago and far away, mountain lake

[jblitz277]

ok the only reason i ask is sears in exton pa has sony1x-8x dvd+r(MIJ) $21.99
which sux cause i only had enough cash for 1 50/ct they had a half dozen

[jblitz277]

chewy co u think this cpu i'm building has adequet cooling system or should i look for another fan?

[Chewy]

with no or little overclock and no voltage increase for the core, stock cooling should be more than adequate

[katzdvd]

ok the only reason i ask is sears in exton pa has sony1x-8x dvd+r(MIJ) $21.99
which sux cause i only had enough cash for 1 50/ct they had a half dozenDoes Sears have layaway plan? :D

ASUS P5N-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail That is a dang nice board, 4 IDE ports, 2 PCI-e x16 slots, the list goes on...

[jblitz277]

ok i acknowledge with my financially challenged situation it will prob take me 3 months to pullthis off but friday i am ordering 1st component .I have never built cpu b4 so do i order case and power supply first or mobo i was thinking case and ps is this wise

[jblitz277]

Ok I was pricing stuff on new egg and they are a little cheaper than tiger direct so I am holding off the processor till last because i was gonna pay 200 from TD with no fan or HSink but newegg $230 E6600 with fan and sink I am ordering case w/ps and mobo fri .Do I need to order sata and ide cables or will some come with mobo

[jblitz277]

Does Sears have layaway plan?
Don't know but I hid them behind about 50 spindle of memorex-r's

[Chewy]

Packaging
Package Contents P5N-E SLI
Driver Disk
User Manual
Rear I/O Panel Shield
IDE/PATA Cable
FDD Cable
2 x SATA Cable
4-pin to SATA Power Cable
USB Bracket
SLI Bridge

[katzdvd]

Don't know but I hid them behind about 50 spindle of memorex-r's Ahh, a man after my own heart! :D

Don't know why it would matter which order you purchase the items in. You could create a "wish list" at newegg & then make the purchases as you have the money avail., or watch for shipping deals, rebates, etc. That is what I did on my recent build. Got back a pile of $$$ in rebates! :bounce:

[Budreaux]

You could create a "wish list" at newegg & then make the purchases as you have the money avail., or watch for shipping deals, rebates, etc. That is what I did on my recent build. Got back a pile of $$$ in rebates! :bounce:
That is what I suggest too. Create your entire build on newegg and place it all in your wishlist and save it. Watch for shipping deals or price drops and buy as your funds allow it. You'll have it in no time at all. I do howwever, suggest that the processor be the last thing you but due to the fact that Newegg has a 30 day return policy on the processors. In the off chance you actually get a DOA proc. , you wouldn;t know it untill you did the actual build. If you bought it first and shelved it for 2 months while getting the other parts, your warranty period is over and you would have to take other avenues to rectify the problem.

[jblitz277]

Followed you guys advise made a wish list only thing i couldn't find was the case and ps i wanted i'll browse

[jblitz277]

Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price

Update ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: P5N32-E SLI Plus
Item #: N82E16813131153

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$186.99 $186.99

Update XFX PVT73PYDJ3 GeForce 7600GS 512MB GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: PVT73PYDJ3
Item #: N82E16814150212

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
$119.99 $119.99

Update Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6600 - Retail
Model #: BX80557E6600
Item #: N82E16819115003

Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy

In Stock
$230.00 $230.00

Update OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2P800R22GK - Retail
Model #: OCZ2P800R22GK
Item #: N82E16820227139

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
Mail-in Rebate
$160.99 $160.99

Update Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3500630AS
Item #: N82E16822148136

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$134.99 $269.98

Update LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model LH-20A1L-05 - OEM
Model #: LH-20A1L-05
Item #: N82E16827106073

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

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$41.99 $41.99
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[katzdvd]

You have expensive tastes :D

watch for the free ship & rebate deals.

[jblitz277]

this is what i want i deff can't afford this but i'll try to get close

[katzdvd]

this is what i want i deff can't afford this but i'll try to get close

With a nice vid card like that, don't forget to add a nice 22" widescreen LCD monitor to the list! :-)

BTW, for close to the same $$$, you can maybe find a bit better rated one that would also include a fan, instead of just a heatsink.

This (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143049) is what I chose. It had a rebate on it when I bought it. Reviews are pretty good.

[jblitz277]

very nice listen this is the first time I ever in my life even looked at pc components I am extremely unexperienced w/ this stuff your input is always appreciated it should say bronze member for me not to go 2 into detail but i had a nice desktpo i bought open box for $600 with tax return last year in june my house got flooded and i lost pc so someone gave me Pentium4 2.8ghz with 20gb harddrive 256mb ram and a keyboard I got into the video and games about 5 months ago and bought harddrive 512ram and 2 burners It's a very old mobo so I need ram video card etc but decided not to spend any more money on this and am trying to build my first pc but for the most part this stuff is beyond me right now i looked up what i thought was good quality

[katzdvd]

trying to build my first pc but for the most part this stuff is beyond me right now i looked up what i thought was good qualityWell, there is some great instruction avail. on here for your first build. Look in the General Computing (http://forum.digital-digest.com/forumdisplay.php?f=105) section of the forum for some good threads, & to get a feel for what you want to do.

Not saying you didn't pick nice components, but if you are on a budget, you wanna make sure to get the most bang for your buck! This one I just assembled cost me approx. $600, not including the burners & a new monitor.

I am very pleased with the performance, but of course could have easily spent more for a faster box. :)

[Chewy]

It's hard to justify spending a grand on a new computer if you are on a budget. Just on the cost of hardware I try to steer clients into the 5-700$ range, using components priced at the "sweet spot". If you need the "latest and greatest" and can afford a huge depreciation in the first 2 years, by all means spend a lot more. Video cards and cpu's are the worst components for being overpriced. A 300-400$ one will be worth less than half that in a year.

[jblitz277]

Katz I rad the entire thread on you build I think i'll stick to the mobo I wanted but I see what u guys mean with processors value it's worse than cars .I also viewed other ram I am not familiar with brands what r the best moderately priced brands and is 1gb enough ?

[jblitz277]

Sorry for back to back posts I was wondering about socket #'s on mobos the one i selected is socket 775 do they continue making processors that will fit this for years to come

[katzdvd]

Katz I rad the entire thread on you build I think i'll stick to the mobo I wanted Yeah, I did buy older technology, but then again, I was interested on squeezing the $$$ on this one. I am not hardcore gaming, so that didn't matter, & most of the parts I could take along to the next upgrade. As Chewy says, Ram - cas 2 better than cas 3. you get what u pay for. Most folks think 1 gb is plenty. Don't buy bargain basement stuff, I did that on an older pc I have & Chewy was mad :D

[Chewy]

matching ram to the core duo 2's is a little tricky, if you don't overclock then
you only get a few percentage points from cas 4 vs cas 5, and then you have the problem of synchronization, they do better with cpu and ram running at the same fsb

to hit the higher speeds you would need very good ram

I would get a gig of good stuff if I was overclocking, 2 gigs of the cheaper
if not

[jblitz277]

ok guys ordered my power supply first and put in my existing cpu and i had mucho probs my pc was shutting down i returned it can you guys help me i need one that has ide sata sli around 600w as cheap as possible but i don't want a real cheapo