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admin 13 Apr 2008 10:33 PM

Nielsen VideoScan/Home Media Magazine: Blu-ray/DVD/HD DVD Stats (Updated Weekly)
 
I'm going to use this thread to post stats from Home Media Magazine, which are published in the free digital edition of the magazine with polling conducted by Nielsen VideoScan. Here's the list of links to archived editions of the digital magazine:

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/ind...d=digi_edition

(not updated with latest links though)

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Ok, for the week ending 6th April 2008, here are the stats:

Blu-ray vs DVD: 4% vs 96% (comparison of top 20 titles by volume)
Blu-ray vs HD DVD: 64% vs 36% (67% vs 33% since inception)

A big comeback for HD DVD for some reason, or perhaps a big drop for Blu-ray (Blu-ray had 8% against DVD last week, compared to only 4% this week).

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/questex/hom041308/

admin 19 Apr 2008 12:47 PM

For the week ending 13th April 2008, here are the stats:

Blu-ray vs DVD: 5% vs 95% (comparison of top 20 titles by volume)
Blu-ray vs HD DVD: 86% vs 14% (67% vs 33% since inception)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/questex/hom042008/

admin 28 Apr 2008 10:24 PM

For some reason, this week's HMM wasn't published (or at least not online yet). But the stats for the week ending 20th April 2008 are:

Blu-ray vs DVD: 6% vs 94% (comparison of top 20 titles by volume)
Blu-ray vs HD DVD: 91% vs 9% (68% vs 32% since inception)
Blu-ray total spending: $9.93 million

Edit: latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...8HGT/index.php

admin 4 May 2008 01:20 PM

For the week ending 27th April 2008, here are the stats:

Blu-ray vs DVD: 6% vs 94% (comparison of top 20 titles by volume)
Blu-ray vs HD DVD: 93% vs 7%
Blu-ray sales down 7.23% compared to last week, total spending: $9.21 million

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...V/index.php#/2

admin 10 May 2008 04:09 PM

For the week ending 4th May 2008, here are the stats:

Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 5% vs 95%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales down 23.04% compared to last week, total spending: $7.09 million (5.66%)
DVD sales down 5.16% compared to last week, total spending: $118.09 million (94.34%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...m852467BVM/#/2

admin 18 May 2008 11:45 PM

For the week ending 11th May 2008, here are the stats:

Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 5% vs 95%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales down 7.32% compared to last week, total spending: $6.57 million (5.01%)
DVD sales up 5.52% compared to last week, total spending: $124.61 million (94.99%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...9NHF/index.php

admin 25 May 2008 02:22 PM

For the week ending 18th May 2008, here are the stats:

Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 5% vs 95%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales up 21.71% compared to last week, total spending: $8 million (5.95%)
DVD sales up 1.49% compared to last week, total spending: $126.47 million (94.05%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...p?startid=1#/2

blutach 25 May 2008 03:55 PM

This BD might be the biggest fizzer in a while. Having said that, sales will increase when BD recordable drives and media come down in price and people can actually backup their media (where permitted by law). However, it's chicken and egg. Prices won't decline significantly until stuff is sold in bigger amounts.

Regards

admin 2 Jun 2008 09:04 PM

For the week ending 25th May 2008, here are the stats:

Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 7% vs 93%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales up 54.94% compared to last week, total spending: $12.38 million (7.68%)
DVD sales up 17.73% compared to last week, total spending: $148.89 million (92.32%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...p?startid=1#/2

admin 9 Jun 2008 08:39 PM

For the week ending 1st June 2008, here are the stats:

Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 10% vs 90%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales down 18.80% compared to last week, total spending: $10.05 million (7.21%)
DVD sales down 13.11% compared to last week, total spending: $129.37 million (92.79%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...p?startid=1#/2

admin 15 Jun 2008 03:52 PM

For the week ending 8th June 2008, here are the stats:

Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 9% vs 91%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales down 0.26% compared to last week, total spending: $10.02 million (7.49%)
DVD sales down 4.35% compared to last week, total spending: $123.74 million (92.51%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...p?startid=1#/2

admin 22 Jun 2008 05:47 PM

For the week ending 15th June 2008, here are the stats:

Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 7% vs 93%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales up 27.01% compared to last week, total spending: $12.73 million (7.36%)
DVD sales up 29.47% compared to last week, total spending: $160.20 million (92.64%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...p?startid=1#/2

Chewy 22 Jun 2008 08:05 PM

Interesting comment about the big problem being cheap upscale dvd players, it seems if someone buys one then blu-ray won't be added for several years

admin 6 Jul 2008 08:24 PM

For the week ending 22nd June 2008, here are the stats:

Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 6% vs 94%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales down 33.41% compared to last week, total spending: $8.48 million (6.43%)
DVD sales down 22.94% compared to last week, total spending: $123.46 million (93.57%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...p?startid=1#/2

admin 6 Jul 2008 08:25 PM

For the week ending 29th June 2008, here are the stats:

Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 7% vs 93%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales up 4.71% compared to last week, total spending: $8.88 million (6.41%)
DVD sales up 5.11% compared to last week, total spending: $129.76 million (93.59%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...p?startid=1#/2

admin 17 Jul 2008 01:16 AM

For the week ending 6th July 2008, here are the stats:

Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 7% vs 93%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales down 11.45% compared to last week, total spending: $7.86 million (6.07%)
DVD sales down 6.26% compared to last week, total spending: $121.63 million (93.93%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...startpage=3#/2

blutach 17 Jul 2008 01:30 AM

Doesn't seem to be capturing real market share does it?

Regards

admin 24 Jul 2008 07:37 PM

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For the week ending 13th July 2008, here are the stats:

Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 12% vs 88%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales up 7.12% compared to last week, total spending: $8.42 million (6.81%)
DVD sales down 5.21% compared to last week, total spending: $115.29 million (93.19%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...hp?startpage=4

Quite a good week on the surface for Blu-ray, or was it just a bad week for DVD? The graph of recent sales figures (since I've started posting them) below:

http://forum.digital-digest.com/atta...1&d=1216896311

Chewy 25 Jul 2008 06:51 PM

You'll have to wait till september for Ironman to see any meaningful comparison

June, july and august have been very sparse for decent releases

Most serious sd dvd collectors have already bought the classics

Blu-ray collectors are still adding older titles

BR7 26 Jul 2008 12:33 AM

Actually there will be some big releases by the end of the year along with Ironman

Transformers
Kill Bill 1 & 2
Sleeping Beauty (I think it will do better then people think)
The Godfather Collection: The Coppola Restoration
The Ultimate Matrix Collection

Dont get me wrong,I do understand what your getting at about Ironman.I think The Dark Knight will be the best selling Blu-ray when it comes out

ed klein 26 Jul 2008 04:21 AM

Just my viewpoint--------DVD vs Blu-Ray

1. I am bias towards using portable media for hi def viewing and not using a media center PC and not using my PC monitor as a hi def HDTV screen.

2. I took the plundge and now have a upscale player for std def and output at 1080P and a blu-ray player output at 1080P feeding a 40 inch dia HDTV.

3. I mainly took the plundge because I was finding today so many of the Blu-ray players and future blu-ray players would not play the type of media I wanted them to play. BD-5, BD-9, BD-R, BD-RE, BD-ROM to me this is going to be a copy protection issue of the future.

4. But there is certainly a lot of hype about Blu-ray, at 20 feet from the 40in HDTV you can't see a picture difference from the upscale std def player and the hi def blu-ray player.

Media costs and player cost associated with Blu-ray are going to have to come way down before they will become main stream 1080P video.

Chewy 26 Jul 2008 05:13 AM

the last few months, new releases for dvd have been mediocre

so dvd sales are down for top 20, of course

new blu-ray releases have been helped with older titles being released for the first time

when ironman comes out see how many sell as dvd vs how many sell as bluray

I would estimate as many as 19 to 1

that's the true picture of attach rate

admin 3 Aug 2008 04:59 PM

For the week ending 20th July 2008, here are the stats:

Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 8% vs 92%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales down 9.58% compared to last week, total spending: $7.61 million (6.35%)
DVD sales down 2.66% compared to last week, total spending: $112.23 million (93.65%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...hp?startpage=4

admin 3 Aug 2008 05:01 PM

For the week ending 27th July 2008, here are the stats:

Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 9% vs 91%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales up 5.03% compared to last week, total spending: $8 million (6.5%)
DVD sales up 3.13% compared to last week, total spending: $115.75 million (93.5%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...O/index.php#/0

admin 15 Aug 2008 10:25 PM

For the week ending 3rd August 2008, here are the stats:

Percentage of Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 10% vs 90%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales up 17.85% compared to last week, total spending: $9.42 million (7.01%)
DVD sales up 7.93% compared to last week, total spending: $124.93 million (92.99%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...p?startid=3#/4

admin 24 Aug 2008 04:08 PM

For the week ending 10th August 2008, here are the stats:

Percentage of Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 7% vs 93%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales down 26.88% compared to last week, total spending: $6.89 million (5.2%)
DVD sales up 0.71% compared to last week, total spending: $125.81 million (94.8%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques....php?startid=1

admin 24 Aug 2008 04:10 PM

For the week ending 17th August 2008, here are the stats:

Percentage of Top 20 titles by volume:
Blu-ray vs DVD: 8% vs 92%

All sales by volume (Percentage of Total Sales):
Blu-ray sales down 10.32% compared to last week, total spending: $6.19 million (5.27%)
DVD sales down 11.64% compared to last week, total spending: $111.17 million (94.73%)

You can read the latest digital edition of HMM with the above stats here:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...p?startid=3#/4

blutach 24 Aug 2008 04:19 PM

What a winner BD is! NOT. Everyone loves HDTV. Hardly anyone wants BD - you'd think they capture a bit more market share by now. It's getting embarrassing.

Regards

BR7 24 Aug 2008 09:02 PM

In all fairness there really wasn't anything to buy this week .Its obvious that DVD owners still out number BR owners about 9 to 1,so I dont put to much stock in these ratings.I think after the holidays we will see better BR sales.I also think with all the negative BR articles people see on the web next to a good number of positive articles is confusing people and they do not know what to believe.. Blu-ray may have a slow start, but I have faith that people will see the Blu light and it will gain speed through out the year and next year

blutach 24 Aug 2008 10:15 PM

Maybe not anything to buy for the last 6 months, too? The market share has been about 7% since this thread started. I, for one, couldn't shed a tear for SONY, a company in trouble, who have poured millions into this technology and have not seen the desired takeup. Hope they lose millions more.

Regards

admin 25 Aug 2008 02:47 AM

I don't think Blu-ray is making the kinds of in-roads that will guarantee it as the rightful successor to DVDs, at least not yet. The actual picture certainly doesn't match up to what the Sony PR machine has been painting, things like saying Blu-ray sales are 300% up compared to last year (of course they are, since you couldn't even buy a player in many electronics stores at that time).

Even the statement that "Blu-ray will overtake DVD by 2012" actually paints a rather harsh reality, that in 4 year's time, DVD sales will still be neck and neck to Blu-ray, with Blu-ray only slightly ahead by then.

Blu-ray, I think, will be a companion format to DVDs, but won't ever replace it. A lot of people see Blu-ray as a optional upgrade to DVD, and unless studios stop releasing movies on DVD, that's exactly what it is. It will take something completely different to replace DVDs I think. My money's on IP based VOD systems, once the bandwidth problems are resolved.

blutach 25 Aug 2008 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by admin
people see Blu-ray as a optional upgrade to DVD

Yes, it's an option, whereas DVD almost seemed a necessity over VHS.

@BR7 - in a now deleted post, you said that you thought that BD would have a big holiday season. Now, the prediction is pushed out by 18 months and as admin says, even the studios are only thinking (hoping) 4 years out! Somehow, I doubt it unless prices of hardware and titles come down - a LOT. Right now, they are only attracting, in economic terms, the "consumer surplus". People who are price insensitive, early adopters. But in order to be successful, they need to lure in mainstream consumers. This is not happening, especially in these tougher economic times.

I also agree with admin - I suspect the format will possibly skipped over (largely) for something completely different ... and, if this is the case, then my heart bleeds for SONY :rotfl:

Regards

admin 29 Aug 2008 11:18 PM

http://www.digital-digest.com/blog/D...august2008.png

The graph shows Blu-ray sales as a percentage of total sales (of both Blu-ray and DVD sales combined). The dates on the bottom corresponds to the weeks ending on these days. For example, for the week ending August 17th, Blu-ray sales accounted for 5.27% of total DVD and Blu-ray sales.

More info in this blog post:

http://www.digital-digest.com/blog/D...o-august-2008/

dr_ml422 30 Aug 2008 12:55 AM

I agree totalyy w/Fast Eddie in that there isn't a big difference when viewing both formats at a distance. Economics will always rule anything. The math won't lie. Numbers don't lie, especially when it comes down to the pocket of the consumer. I along w/others have noticed also that in many of the stores that sell HDTV and display both formats of std dvd and Blu-Ray it's totally distorted and at times even seems to be a case of false marketing for lack of a better word.

My friend who's really into gaming and HDTV both on a stand alone player or via a ps3 just told me the other day he would of never layed down the 3g's for the Blu-Ray drive he has on his machine. At $20 - $22 a pop for bd blanks it's plain crazy. What he pointed out which I didn't think during the conversation was the fact that you're out that ridiculous price if you screw up a blank, which we all do from time to time. That along w/the fact that in order to put all that video work that they hold which is a pita is even more of a reason to not buy into them. His method of which they're probably many is adding a silent musical note or 2 between footage so that you could continuously be able to fill the whole bd.

I have 2 sony wega trinitrons w/digital filters and just recently added digital cable to one. It is very clear and in some channels even crystal. Channel 4 on the olympics was immaculate. That said it wasn't that much difference if any as compared to some big name HDTV's I've seen. Sony being 1 of them. No telling what might happen exactly but admin's suggestion that some other format might suffice to replace std dvd's seems a reasonable forecast for now. I'm forced like all of us to upgrade to hd cable so my other wega is next. Lucky for me I didn't take the plunge and purchase a bd optical drive. This thread and the experiences of others have solidified all doubts I had about doing so.

Chewy 30 Aug 2008 01:43 AM

It now seems evident that Sony bought out Toshiba in the format war and even more evident that Sony was simply throwing more good money after bad.

The bottom line is upconverted SD video is "good nuf" for the masses.

blutach 30 Aug 2008 06:34 AM

Gee, that's really tough for SONY. :rotfl: :rotfl:

Regards

dr_ml422 31 Aug 2008 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 564105)
It now seems evident that Sony bought out Toshiba in the format war and even more evident that Sony was simply throwing more good money after bad.

The bottom line is upconverted SD video is "good nuf" for the masses.

Well here's something else I have to learn about. Too many digital formats etc... Not nuf time. Lol... At least I knew what the digital comb filters do. Especially after googling it a minute ago. I only knew that my 2 sets would accept the hd signals and that the picture would be intact. Other than that I didn't actually know how the process worked. :)

BR7 1 Sep 2008 02:23 AM

Quote:

I also agree with admin - I suspect the format will possibly skipped over (largely) for something completely different
I just dont see that happening.Prices will come down sooner rather then later.As for unconverted SD DVDs and HD downloads go they are garbage IMO.I just dont agree with people saying unconverted SD DVDs are just as good. You can see a difference between the two and the sound quality Blu-ray puts out cant be matched by cable,satellite,HD downloads,unconverted SD DVDs or VOD.My guess is that 80% of the masses haven't even attempted to compare Blu-ray to any of the options I listed above.I am not a Sony lover nor am I a fan of their past practices, but I am not going to ignore a good format because I am holding a grudge.

dr_ml422 1 Sep 2008 02:59 AM

About 30 yrs. ago or so my brother brought home a small sony trinitron. pull out buttons and the whole 9 yrds. at that time. Maybe it was a 10 in. Don't remember. Only thing I do remember was that the set lasted about 10 or more years. I haven't a problem w/what I have now and don't own any of their hdtv's or dvd players. the latter because of their reputation not playing certain discs. My take is solely on the blu-ray hype for lack of a better word right now. Most guys I know own sony tv's also and are way into the whole hd revolution whether through computers or gaming, and they feel like most of us that right now the price and the output whether through video or audio isn't so much better to buy into it. If it was toshiba, sharp, lg, or whoever else is still making tv's or would of led this campaign it still would of produced the same results. Matter of fact I'm still holding on to my panasonic vcr hoping the video stores down my way finally give up hope of selling their stuff at prices equivalent to dvd's so I could move in and buy everything I could and convert them to dvd's which really don't come out bad at all.

BR7 it's just economics. Sony just happens to be the guys we have to point to right now.

Chewy 1 Sep 2008 04:02 AM

no grudge here, I was equally unimpressed with HD format by toshiba, there just wasn't(as Blu points out) enough difference to justify the high cost of upgrading


After I saw what dvd's looked like compared to vhs back 6 years ago on a smaller color set, I was immediately sold and ended up putting my new vcr into mothballs and even gave away all my vhs tapes

Now seeing those dvd's on a decent upconverting setup(only 720p) vs a several thousand dollar 1080p setup I can only tell a small relative differencem having already collected all the old titles I care for and seeing the junk they are releasing today makes the upgrade even less attractive


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