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Old 10 Apr 2010, 09:29 AM   #16
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using CCE SP for speed reasons. HCenc is a great encoder
like i said here: i cant say cce is that much faster to consider it the better choice

for the last couple of dvd conversions (episode discs) i did i prefered procoder
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Old 10 Apr 2010, 11:40 AM   #17
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I find Procoder 3 very slow with DVD-RB VS CCE SP. I prefer to use Procoder 3 on its own and select my target to be VOB files.
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you will know bests how it feels in your case, art.

all i wanted is to point out that procoder as well as hcenc may be very similar in terms of speed but that may depend on the system.

the conversion times i posted refered to a quadcore and they were not too different so let me ask you what cpu are you using and how much does an average conversion take?
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Old 11 Apr 2010, 06:01 AM   #19
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I looked back at my log file and I see:

[18:33:46] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- VTS_01: 2,335,854 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 156,287 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 95.6%
- Overall Bitrate : 5,387Kbs
- Space for Video : 4,286,286KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 5,387/5,386/5,387 Kbs
[18:36:00] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 3 minutes.
[18:36:00] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2
[19:53:30] Phase II ENCODING completed in 77 minutes.
[19:53:30] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
Correcting VTS Sectors...
[20:01:29] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 8 minutes.

My PC isn't new it is a AMD Athalon X2 64 dual core +4600, 3 gigs of 533 DDR2. I have the 2 drives set like jbobs recomended a few years ago to me:

Source on drive 1
work folder on drive1
output on drive 2

I use CCE with default settings of 25 and 16 and set it for 2 pass not including the inital pass.


seems to work for me. Procoder starts out at 1X speed (29.97 fps) or better but slows down to about 65 X a little better than 1/2 speed based on 29.97 fps. I should point out I am using DVD-RB 98.2 but CCE SP is set for a dual a core PC and so is Procoder 3 in some modes but it seems to be slower with converting to mpg. I typically see ~5X speed or 150 fps from CCE on the same source, HCenc gives me about 65 fps a little better than 2X

Nice comparison you did with the encoders, for the money HCenc is very good, i like the sharper look of CCE vs the smooth look of Procoder 3 which is real good with lower bit rates.

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A new beta.

http://hank315.nl/files/HC024_beta_05-08-2010.zip
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