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  • LaBrilliante
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2002
    • 3

    Using FlaskMPEG is fun and easy! Only if it'd work too...

    My first DVD-ripping/DivX encoding experience has been bloody frustrating. The ripping part was OK, but the real problems begun with FlaskMPEG. First of all, I tried the earlier version, but I couldn't encode crap with it, because it just keep saying "AVIFileOpen doesn't worked. VFW-Errorcode.." and so on. I tried everything, and I do mean everything. But guess if something helped? Of course not. The last piece of advice all the FAQs were giving, is "reinstall windows". What?! I just installed it a couple of days ago on a brand new hard drive!

    And then, as some mysterious force of divine intervention blasted through my brain, I thought I'd give the new version of FlaskMPEG a try.

    It turned out to be a bit better than the earlier version, as it actually started encoding and actually finished it! But my happyness was premature. As I soon found out, it had only encoded the first VOB. Things were getting interesting. Now, on some online msg board like this, full of worthless advice that never actually work, I found out that I have to download a thing called thunder.msim or something. That I did. Extracted it to the root folder of FlaskMPEG. Tried encoding again. I bet you're now full of anxiousness and such? Well, don't be, because surprise surprise, it didn't work. Again, it only endoded the first VOB.

    Now, there are two possibilities. Either I'm totally retarded idiot lacking even the basic comp skills, or FlaskMPEG is a buggy piece of crap that never works for like the half of users out there.

    Oh, and if somebody really has a good piece of advice, please do enlighten my retarded brain a little.
  • Enchanter
    Old member
    • Feb 2002
    • 5749

    #2
    Re: Using FlaskMPEG is fun and easy! Only if it'd work too...

    Originally posted by LaBrilliante
    My first DVD-ripping/DivX encoding experience has been bloody frustrating. The ripping part was OK, but the real problems begun with FlaskMPEG. First of all, I tried the earlier version, but I couldn't encode crap with it, because it just keep saying "AVIFileOpen doesn't worked. VFW-Errorcode.." and so on. I tried everything, and I do mean everything. But guess if something helped? Of course not. The last piece of advice all the FAQs were giving, is "reinstall windows". What?! I just installed it a couple of days ago on a brand new hard drive!

    And then, as some mysterious force of divine intervention blasted through my brain, I thought I'd give the new version of FlaskMPEG a try.

    It turned out to be a bit better than the earlier version, as it actually started encoding and actually finished it! But my happyness was premature. As I soon found out, it had only encoded the first VOB. Things were getting interesting. Now, on some online msg board like this, full of worthless advice that never actually work, I found out that I have to download a thing called thunder.msim or something. That I did. Extracted it to the root folder of FlaskMPEG. Tried encoding again. I bet you're now full of anxiousness and such? Well, don't be, because surprise surprise, it didn't work. Again, it only endoded the first VOB.

    Now, there are two possibilities. Either I'm totally retarded idiot lacking even the basic comp skills, or FlaskMPEG is a buggy piece of crap that never works for like the half of users out there.

    Oh, and if somebody really has a good piece of advice, please do enlighten my retarded brain a little.
    You're not the first one to experience this. Many others have had similar problems, not to mention inferior results when compared to output from other methods. Yes. Flask is a buggy piece of software, though it still works well enough and is one of the few programs that can independently access DVD files (without the need of a frameserver). Have you tried opening DVD instead of opening a file? You need to make sure that when you rip a DVD, you rip all the files, including the VOB and IFO files. Selecting the Open DVD option will require the IFO file.

    That aside, you have put it rather too strongly. In my early days of using Flask 0.594, it worked pretty well except for the deinterlacing parts (Why the hell does it never properly remove the interlacing artifacts???). Flask 0.6 was no improvement at all, rather a degradation in terms of output quality.

    I suggest that you give GordianKnot a try. Most will agree with me that its results are far superior to those of Flask, and to top it all off, it is not a difficult tool to use and learn.

    Edit: You might want to try getting some patches for Flask from here.
    Last edited by Enchanter; 6 Aug 2002, 11:12 PM.

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    • LaBrilliante
      Junior Member
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2002
      • 3

      #3
      By the way, flask6 doesn't have the "open DVD" option, only "open file". Theoretically you could choose the IFO or first VOB and it should work fine both ways. But hey...

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      • Enchanter
        Old member
        • Feb 2002
        • 5749

        #4
        I have never particularly liked Flask 0.6 and hardly used it to do any encodings. I suggest that you give the older and more stable Flask 0.594 another try, or ditch it completely and join the ranks of GordianKnot users.

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        • LaBrilliante
          Junior Member
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2002
          • 3

          #5
          0.594 had this wonderful "AVIOpenFile error" feature... So I guess I'll give GordianKnot a try. Thanks.

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          • mnd
            Member
            Member
            • May 2002
            • 54

            #6
            Why do you not try Xmpeg 4.5?

            It has been developped by Xsis Team from the Flakmpeg source codes. And the 4.5 version is very stable if you apply the tips and tricks for Xmpeg 4.5 I write in this forum at http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30907.

            You may download it and separately its "DVD.mism.Xmpeg" plugin on the official site of Xmpeg http://www.mp3guest.com/xmpeg_index.asp


            DVD.mism is necessary for opening IFO or Vob Files

            Xmpeg is best suitable for DVD to Divx conversion.
            On the other hand Virtualdub with Avisynth are better recommended for video capture to Divx because all their good filters.

            Try and see

            Good luck

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            • mnd
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              • May 2002
              • 54

              #7
              See rather the tips at http://forum.digital-digest.com/show...hreadid=10564.

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              • De Joker
                Member
                Member
                • Aug 2002
                • 58

                #8
                Xmpeg error message

                I agree that xmpeg is among the easier and fast encoders because i've been using it for a while now.

                I recently upgraded my computer and my operating system from a P3 700 running win 98se to a athlon xp 1900+ running win xp pro.

                I was very curious as to how fast i would be able to encode with my new setup, only i haven't been able to that yet because i keep getting an error with xmpeg 4.5.

                The error when i start the encoding is " an error occured when trying to generate the file. Check that you're not using the output file or the program is setup correctly"

                I have tried different icdt, divx 3 and divx 4 without succes.

                I also tried flaskmpeg 0.6 but that also gives me an error when i select the ifo file and press ok.

                Has anyone else encountered this error also, some help would be welcome.

                Thanks

                Robert

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                • mnd
                  Member
                  Member
                  • May 2002
                  • 54

                  #9
                  This error occurs notably when the resized dimensions are not multiple of 4.

                  Xmpeg 4.5 erroneously don't verify that in this version. You must verify by yourself before releasing the Output Pad window.

                  Good luck

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                  • mnd
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                    • May 2002
                    • 54

                    #10
                    see also at this forum http://forum.digital-digest.com/show...threadid=10564

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                    • hacker_on_fire
                      Digital Video Expert
                      Digital Video Expert
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 729

                      #11
                      i remember when i first started off with flask. i would think the results were good, but then when i was introduced to Gordian Knot my whole view had changed. When i look back at the early days of encoding i see interlacing artifacts and a blurry picture which makes it un watchable and it took so so long. I dont know how i accepted it.

                      Flask of any counter-part is not the way forth in my opinion.

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                      • De Joker
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                        • Aug 2002
                        • 58

                        #12
                        Thanks mnd, i will try the suggested settings, but the thing is the dimensions are a multiple of 4.

                        Robert

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                        • mnd
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                          • May 2002
                          • 54

                          #13
                          reply to hacker_on_fire
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                          When i look back at the early days of encoding i see interlacing artifacts and a blurry picture which makes it un watchable and it took so so long. I dont know how i accepted it.

                          Flask of any counter-part is not the way forth in my opinion.

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                          That was probably true with old versions of Divx, whatever the sofware used. Presently I use Divx 5.02 pro - 2 pass encoding - and Xmpeg 4.5 for compressing my DVDs with very good results even at small kbps.

                          The best way is the one which is the best in its concept. Gordian-Knot is of too great complexity in its concept and is dependent of several other programs more or less updated as Nandub.

                          From version to version Xmpeg improves its quality. Use Knot if you like it, but don't give bad advices to others and especially to newbies, if you have no updated expertise concerning Flak-Xmpeg, please don't reply to those who ask for flask help

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                          • De Joker
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                            Member
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 58

                            #14
                            Well i did everthing according to the suggested settings and still got the same error. I tried flask 0.6 again with antoher movie and now it works. So i guess i will be using flask instead.

                            Is it true that xmpeg is faster than flask (even version 0.6) since it is based on flask 0.6.

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                            • UncasMS
                              Super Moderator
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 9456

                              #15
                              if you have no updated expertise concerning Flak-Xmpeg, please don't reply to those who ask for flask help
                              it is, however, of no use sticking to a tool/routine that may be inferior in terms of stability/reliability.

                              from my p-o-v one should think of different routines in case the former one(s) wont simply work as good as other do.

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