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  • d-walker
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2004
    • 7

    Making Region Free Backups of Movies

    I'm having some reqal difficulty making region 2, 3, and 4 DVD's region free using the following setup:

    * LiteOn HD165H DVD-ROM (Firmware region-free)
    * DVD RegionKiller software
    * DVDShrink (the latest)
    * Nero Burning ROM

    I've tried all kinds of combinations, but after my PC indicates a successful resolution, my Sony DVD Player cannot read due to the region coding still being on. Any suggestions? Much appreciated.

    Dave
  • ignignot
    Super Member
    Super Member
    • Mar 2004
    • 281

    #2
    Check out this program (if you haven't already):



    and it requires the pattin-couffin drivers that can be found here:

    Patin-Couffin access layer is required device I/O interface for various application, such as DVD43.
    Last edited by ignignot; 29 Jun 2004, 03:51 AM.

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    • d-walker
      Junior Member
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2004
      • 7

      #3
      I tried the program out, but making the DRIVE region-free isn't an issue, DVD RegionKiller took care of that. The problem is that after BURNING a DVDShrink finished product (it is supposed to remove the DVD's region coding0, the finished product is unable to be played in a Region 1 Sony DVD Player..

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      • ignignot
        Super Member
        Super Member
        • Mar 2004
        • 281

        #4
        That's odd... DVD Shrink should by default remove all region coding on the disc. Is it possible you player doesn't like playing region-free discs?

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        • d-walker
          Junior Member
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2004
          • 7

          #5
          Not likely. It's been playing all of the region 1 disks that were made region free by DVDShrink. I'm at a loss.. Thanks for your help, though.

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          • ignignot
            Super Member
            Super Member
            • Mar 2004
            • 281

            #6
            "I'm at a loss.. "

            As am I... Hopefully someone else can be of assistance though. Good Luck!

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            • setarip
              Retired
              • Dec 2001
              • 24955

              #7
              1) Are you trying to play PAL format DVDs on an NTSC-only player?

              2) Do the ORIGINAL (commercial) DVDs play on your Sony standalone player?

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              • Dimmer
                Junior Member
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2004
                • 28

                #8
                Re: Making Region Free Backups of Movies

                Originally posted by d-walker
                I'm having some reqal difficulty making region 2, 3, and 4 DVD's region free using the following setup:
                ...
                I've tried all kinds of combinations, but after my PC indicates a successful resolution, my Sony DVD Player cannot read due to the region coding still being on.
                That's not a region but NTSC/PAL issue. Sony purposely makes the players sold in US (R1) unable to play PAL discs. Hacking a Sony would cost more then buying a new no-name player that doesn't have these issues.

                It's true that if an R1 Sony comes across a PAL DVD even without region protection, it displays an invalid region error because R1 DVD can only be NTSC. You can try to trick the player by changing PAL to NTSC in VTS properties of every IFO file using IfoEdit, although it doesn't work for every model.

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                • d-walker
                  Junior Member
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 7

                  #9
                  I'll give that a shot. Thanks for the reply. Oh, are there any guides about for using IFOEdit? Is the final product DVDShrink/Nero friendly? Thanks...Dave

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                  • setarip
                    Retired
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 24955

                    #10
                    To d-walker

                    "You can try to trick the player by changing PAL to NTSC in VTS properties of every IFO file using IfoEdit, although it doesn't work for every model."

                    Be prepared to be disappointed, as Sony standalone DVD players are very unforgiving and inflexible...

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                    • d-walker
                      Junior Member
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 7

                      #11
                      I opened IFOEdit, but was unable to find the bit where you could change the PAL/NTSC thing. IS there a guide somewhere that outlines that? Thanks again..

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                      • Dimmer
                        Junior Member
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 28

                        #12
                        Originally posted by d-walker
                        I opened IFOEdit, but was unable to find the bit where you could change the PAL/NTSC thing. IS there a guide somewhere that outlines that? Thanks again..
                        Once you've opened the file in IfoEdit, look for the word PAL in the bottom panel (Overview). Double-click on each to bring up the setting screen where you can change it to NTSC. Do it for every IFO file.

                        Indeed, it's not very likely to work properly on a Sony. Even if it accepts the disc, it may not work properly, for example the video may look corrupted.

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                        • d-walker
                          Junior Member
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 7

                          #13
                          I'll give it a go, thanks, as always..

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                          • d-walker
                            Junior Member
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 7

                            #14
                            No go... here's the problem..


                            I was wondering if you knew how I could convert a movie ripped by DVD Decrypter into an NTSC Region 1. It started it's life as a region 2 PAL DVD, and I was successfully able to remove the region, but when I used IFOEdit to change the .IFO's to NTSC, I ended up with a playable DVD, only it was a horrible mess on screne. I only used default settings on IFOEdit, so I'm not sure. I'd appreciate any input you may have..

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                            • Flyback
                              Junior Member
                              Junior Member
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 1

                              #15
                              i have the same problem, i own a DVP-NS325 and am unable to play a pal movie converted to NTSC.

                              i use nerovison express, but one thing i don't understand, if nero convert a PAL movie to NTSC, why the sony player don't want to play it?

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