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[UncasMS]

i did van helsing main movie + menue + all extras, what leads to 126 min main movie + ~35 min extras (menue uncounted)

these combos were used:


rb freeware 094_hc015_LOW (fastest profile) - 205 min for the encoding only
rb freeware 094_hc015_BEST (slowest mode) - 257 min for the encoding only

rb PRO 1.0 rc 5.1 hc015_BEST + MATRIX "very low bitrate" - 231 min for the encoding only
(not used the pc this time)
rb PRO 1.0 rc 5.1 cce270 3passes + MATRIX "very low bitrate" - 183 min for the encoding only

rb PRO 1.0 rc 5.1 procoder2 NO matrix/encoder default - 237 min for the encoding only

shrink with deep analysis + AEC - 108 min for everything


1 SHRINK+ Deep Analysis + Adaptive Error Compensation (sharp):


1 HC015 - rb 0.94 FREEWARE - LOW/FASTEST profile:


1 HC015 - rb 0.94 FREEWARE - BEST Profile (no matrix used/available in the freeware version):


1 HC015 - rb PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 - BEST Profile + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":


1 CCE270 - rb PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 - 3 passes + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":


1 Procoder2 - rb PRO RC 5.1 - Mastering Quality + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":



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2 SHRINK+ Deep Analysis + Adaptive Error Compensation (sharp):


2 HC015 - rb 0.94 FREEWARE - LOW/FASTEST profile:


2 HC015 - rb 0.94 FREEWARE - BEST Profile (no matrix used/available in the freeware version):


2 HC015 - rb PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 - BEST Profile + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":


2 CCE270 - rb PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 - 3 passes + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":


2 Procoder2 - rb PRO RC 5.1 - Mastering Quality + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":



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3 SHRINK+ Deep Analysis + Adaptive Error Compensation (sharp):


3 HC015 - rb 0.94 FREEWARE - LOW/FASTEST profile:


3 HC015 - rb 0.94 FREEWARE - BEST Profile (no matrix used/available in the freeware version):


3 HC015 - rb PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 - BEST Profile + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":


3 CCE270 - rb PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 - 3 passes + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":


3 Procoder2 - rb PRO RC 5.1 - Mastering Quality + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":



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dont know what made me stop at this frame

must have been gut-feeling that it'll be a demanding area


4 SHRINK+ Deep Analysis + Adaptive Error Compensation (sharp):


4 HC015 - rb 0.94 FREEWARE - LOW/FASTEST profile:


4 HC015 - rb 0.94 FREEWARE - BEST Profile (no matrix used/available in the freeware version):


4 HC015 - rb PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 - BEST Profile + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":


4 CCE270 - rb PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 - 3 passes + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":


4 Procoder2 - rb PRO RC 5.1 - Mastering Quality + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":



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5 SHRINK+ Deep Analysis + Adaptive Error Compensation (sharp):


5 HC015 - rb 0.94 FREEWARE - LOW/FASTEST profile:


5 HC015 - rb 0.94 FREEWARE - BEST Profile (no matrix used/available in the freeware version):


5 HC015 - rb PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 - BEST Profile + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":


5 CCE270 - rb PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 - 3 passes + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":


5 Procoder2 - rb PRO RC 5.1 - Mastering Quality + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":


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6 SHRINK+ Deep Analysis + Adaptive Error Compensation (sharp):


6 HC015 - rb 0.94 FREEWARE - LOW/FASTEST profile:


6 HC015 - rb 0.94 FREEWARE - BEST Profile (no matrix used/available in the freeware version):


6 HC015 - rb PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 - BEST Profile + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":


6 CCE270 - rb PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 - 3 passes + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":


6 Procoder2 - rb PRO RC 5.1 - Mastering Quality + Matrix "Very low Bitrate":




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ok, it was a long way to the bottom

for reading ^_~



i have to admit, that this conversion had low bitrates but on the other hand comparing high bitrate conversions doesnt make much sense as all results will look very good


you might say that the depicted blockiness or bluriness will not be visible on a tv that much because i picked one single frame which will almost vanish on tv, but i do see a difference on the telly because the less than perfect scenes/frames repeat themselves and i do see noise or a macroblock every now and then in my conversions


so for me, an ENcoder is second to none - only question is which one to take?

i see most blockiness/too smoothed areas in the SHRINK pictures and my number one is PROCODER2 by far

but one should also be able to see that HC is not inferior to cce
i think it can compete and it may even look slightly better sometimes

taking into account that HC is total freeware, this is an amazing result imho!

i, too, see a slight difference between hc BEST and hc BEST + MATRIX

the pictures with matrix enabled (which only the PRO version of rebuilder allows) do look a little less noisy to me

so all in all i must say i that dvd rebuilder PRO is worth the $10 or more, because of an enormous amount of additonal settings/options and in combination with a freeware encoder like HC Enc is a very good choice


do hurry up though to donate, as the current PRO version 1.0 rc 5.1 is said to be the LAST rc version and when the FINAL will hit the market it'll be ~$30

[blutach]

Poor DVD Shrink is all I can say Very blocky. Wonder what it would look like on "max smooth" - this low bitrate stuff needs that IMHO.

Would have been nice to also see the original frame.

HC16 is due out in a week or so. It is rapidly overtaking CCE.

And folks shouold not forget the free RBOpt addin to DVDRB, which enables you to set bitrates on a cell basis. So lower it for credits and raise it for low bitrate scenes.


Regards

[UncasMS]

new post as my previous posting has reached its picture limited

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added:
- shrink with analysis +AEC MAX Smoothness
- original source frame


1 Original:


1 SHRINK + Deep Analysis + AEC Max. Smooth:




2 Original:


2 SHRINK + Deep Analysis + AEC Max. Smooth:



3. Original:


3 SHRINK + Deep Analysis + AEC Max. Smooth:



4. original:


4 SHRINK + Deep Analysis + AEC Max. Smooth:



5. Original:


5 SHRINK + Deep Analysis + AEC Max. Smooth:



6. Original:


6 SHRINK + Deep Analysis + AEC Max. Smooth:



actually *max smoothness* didnt help at all

[UncasMS]

to be continued here:

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?p=293467#post293467