2 Disc Back-Up To Dual Layer Disc ???

[soup]

I am thinking about trying to put a 2 disc back-up to a dual layer disc.Obviously I am thinking of using some combination of DvdD/Dvd Shrink/ maybe even Multishrink.I have the vts files one is 6.50Gb after Multishrink and the other is 3.14GB after Multishrink.I have the 2 iso's one is 4.35GB after Multi & Dvd Shrink and the other is 3.14GB after Multishrink.Obviously I am looking for some help as regards to the process.Have only tried one other dual layer using DvdD/Dvd Shrink/Nero Burning Rom worked great in PC but not in standalone probably because of layer break.I know that you can pull more than one file into Dvd Shrink but I don't think it can be that simple.

[jmet]

Are you wanting a "Menu" ?

[nwg]

If there is no menu. Then, combine the two onto one disc using reauthor mode of Shrink. There will be a title for each disc. Set both to no compression and bak up to another folder.

Then load the output into Pgcedit and create another ISO for the whole thing and burn with Imgburn. Before it burns, it will tell you where the layer change is. You can also select another position for it from choices that are given.

Pgcedit DL burning guide

If you need a menu to select which one you want. You could import both discs into TMPGEnc DVD Author as two titles (called tracks in TDA). Create a menu and re-process the files and as a single DL disc and it will also burn the DL disc for you.

Both ways will require quite a bit of hard disk space.

[drfsupercenter]

Just curious, is there a way to take 2 entire DVDs, menus and all, and just add one "master menu" that would go to the menu of one of the 2 movies when selected? I am talking about if there is one of those flipper discs, and I want the menus from each side, complete with special features.

[soup]

@nwg if I take both iso's that are already shrunk and open files downloading them one at a time into Dvd Shrink so that they are both in at the same time won't Dvd Shrink create one iso and then I can burn with either Dvd Decrypter or ImgBurn just curious.

[nwg]

Just curious, is there a way to take 2 entire DVDs, menus and all, and just add one "master menu" that would go to the menu of one of the 2 movies when selected? I am talking about if there is one of those flipper discs, and I want the menus from each side, complete with special features.

DVDRemake Pro does that and very easily. They call it merging DVD's and can do up to 4 DVD's. It costs money though.

DVDReamke Pro

Merge DVD's

[nwg]

@nwg if I take both iso's that are already shrunk and open files downloading them one at a time into Dvd Shrink so that they are both in at the same time won't Dvd Shrink create one iso and then I can burn with either Dvd Decrypter or ImgBurn just curious.

Shrink can only open one ISO at a time. It can read from many DVD's ripped in file mode by DVDD.

Pgcedit is useful to determine the layer change position. Shrink probably won't be able to set the layer change as it is supposed to work with DVD-5 DVD's.

[drfsupercenter]

Can DVD Remake Pro be bought at a store? And can the free one (DVD Remake) (which I have) do that also?

According to the site it can - I will test it out.

--EDIT-- The free one I had was DVD Rebuilder... the free ReMake limits you to like 15 seconds... I guess it won't work for me then. However, this was of interest: (from the DimadSoft site):

There are a few opportunities to get full versions of MenuEdit, DvdReMake and DvdReMake Pro for free.

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Does that mean that DVF could get a free version of the DVD Remake Pro to distribute to members?

[soup]

This is good stuff.So what you are saying is that if I take the two original files I got from DVDD before menushrink or does it matter and open them into shrink I should be able to create 1 iso.With the files I have from above wouldn't I have to compress to fit or can't you do that.Doesn't ImgBurn and DVDD calculate optimal or is that in another mode not write.

[jmet]

I think this thread would be very pertinent to what you are trying to accomplish: http://forum.digital-digest.com/show...threadid=47252

[drfsupercenter]

Hmmm... yeah I know how to do that... doesn't keep the menus. I wonder if there is a freeware program like DVD Rebmake Pro.

[nwg]

Does that mean that DVF could get a free version of the DVD Remake Pro to distribute to members?

No.

DVDRemake Pro is worth it. Using the demo you can get a feel how useful it would be. If you are going to lots of two onto one DVD with menus then that alone will be worth it in the time saved.

There is no simple freeware alternative.

[drfsupercenter]

That's too bad. I will just live without it then, as I wasn't planning on doing lots of discs, just 1 or 2, and $50 doesn't make sense for that few DVDs.

[soup]

Thank you nwg & jmet I am now confident on the joining of both whichever way I go excellent guide jmet.Now I just have to find the guide re:dual layer & the layer break that part I am not so confident on.Alright I am now totally confused as re: layer break is it created in shrink or is it created as you burn with say DvdD?I thought you would use the iso to burn in Dvdd but now I read elsewhere in the forum that you are supposed to use the mds file or am i just trying to take in too much info and make this more difficult than it is?I just can't get this layer break straight and obviously it is important to do it properly.

[nwg]

Thank you nwg & jmet I am now confident on the joining of both whichever way I go excellent guide jmet.Now I just have to find the guide re:dual layer & the layer break that part I am not so confident on.Alright I am now totally confused as re: layer break is it created in shrink or is it created as you burn with say DvdD?I thought you would use the iso to burn in Dvdd but now I read elsewhere in the forum that you are supposed to use the mds file or am i just trying to take in too much info and make this more difficult than it is?I just can't get this layer break straight and obviously it is important to do it properly.

Shrink will keep the original layer change if you untick layer change removal in the prefs. Pgcedit will read the layer change for you and show you where it is. This is then passed on to DVDD when burning. You don't need to do anything about the layer change. However, the layer change can be placed in a different position if needed. You don't need to worry about this until you are more confident with Pgcedit.

If you are using Pgcedit read the PGcedit guide I posted above.

If you do a 1:1 copy with DVDD to create a ISO and then burn it with DVDD. The layer change is stored in the mds file that DVDD creates. When burning to DL media, the mds file is loaded into DVDD and then you burn the disc.

DVD Decrypter ISO read/write guide