Acceptable Bitrate Limit w/ DA & AEC

[xdjoynerx]

curious as to what you guys think is the low end of acceptable bitrates when using DA & AEC.

some of my testing:

~3800kbps w/ DA & AEC (max sharp) yielded video indistinguishable from the original while watching. frame by frame comparison was indistinguishable in 95% of the frames, the other 5% being highly detailed scenes were only distinguishable if you looked very very closely; nothing you could notice while watching moving picture.

~3500kbps w/ DA & AEC (max sharp) yielded excellent quality video (almost indistinguishable) while watching. frame by frame comparison was indistinguishable in 85% of the frames, the other 15% exhibited very minor blocking, possibly noticeable while watching depending on your viewing setup.

~3200kbps w/ DA & AEC (max sharp) yielded poor results over all. blocking in most frames. noticeable while watching.

please share your experiences and test findings!

[blutach]

Please see compression explained in my signature.

As well, other factors like Quant need to be considered, not just bitrate.

But typically, 3500+ should be good enough, even on big screens, if the quant (compression) is low. In any event, you should use a high quality encoder rather than a transcoding solution.

Regards

[xdjoynerx]

can you elaborate more on how quantization fits in? also, if you have numbers (or ratios) as to acceptable quantization levels in relation to bitrate it would be appreciated too!