screenshots 2b - so stop crying, blu

**2COOL** · 1 Sep 2005, 02:19 PM

@UncasMS

Thanks for your time and research to bring us these wonderful captures. To piggyback on what you have, I zoomed a set of yours to 200% in Photoshop to show us more details. The first picture is the original, in which yours still kind of had a little blockiness to begin with.

You didn't mention about it but I presume you used DVD Shrink 3.2.0.15

Original > DVD Shrink 3.2 w/ Deep Analysis + Adaptive Error Compensation (sharp):

Original > DVD Shrink 3.2 w/ Deep Analysis + AEC Max. Smooth

Original > HC Encoder 0.15 - DVDRebuilder 0.94 FREEWARE - LOW/FASTEST profile

Original > HC Encoder 0.15 & DVDRebuilder 0.94 FREEWARE w / BEST Profile (no matrix used/available in the freeware version)

Original > HC Encoder 0.15 & DVDRebuilder PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 w/ BEST Profile + Matrix "Very low Bitrate"

Original > CCE 2.70 & DVDRebuilder PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 w/ 3 passes + Matrix "Very low Bitrate”

Original > Procoder2 & DVDRebuilder PRO RC 5.1 w/ Mastering Quality + Matrix "Very low Bitrate”

**UncasMS** · 1 Sep 2005, 02:50 PM

indeed, i used dvdd 3.5.4.0 in file mode

and thanx for the zoom-in ^_~

++++++++++++

of course even source frames may already be on the edge and look less than perfect

but on the other hand we wont see differences in *easy* scenes - of course i had to look for those little suckers and (thank god) most scenes do look better with ALL engines/settings used

but a macroblock here and some noise there is what spoils a film for me and i'm sort of sensitive for them and having spotted one such flaw i'll spend the rest of the movie searching for mistakes instead of enjoying the dvd

**blutach** · 1 Sep 2005, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncasMS

but a macroblock here and some noise there is what spoils a film for me and i'm sort of sensitive for them and having spotted one such flaw i'll spend the rest of the movie searching for mistakes instead of enjoying the dvd

Me 2

Regards

**2COOL** · 1 Sep 2005, 06:56 PM

Here’s another 200% zoomed set.

Note: DVD Shrink is the only transcoder here and the rest are encoders.

Original > DVD Shrink 3.2 w/ Deep Analysis + Adaptive Error Compensation (sharp):

Original > DVD Shrink 3.2 w/ Deep Analysis + AEC Max. Smooth

Original > HC015 - DVDRebuilder 0.94 FREEWARE - LOW/FASTEST profile

Original > HC015 & DVDRebuilder 0.94 FREEWARE w / BEST Profile (no matrix used/available in the freeware version)

Original > HC015 & DVDRebuilder PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 w/ BEST Profile + Matrix "Very low Bitrate""

Original > CCE 2.70 & DVDRebuilder PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 w/ 3 passes + Matrix "Very low Bitrate”

Original > Procoder2 & DVDRebuilder PRO RC 5.1 w/ Mastering Quality + Matrix "Very low Bitrate”

**2COOL** · 1 Sep 2005, 07:27 PM

And another 200% zoomed set.

Original > DVD Shrink 3.2 w/ Deep Analysis + Adaptive Error Compensation (sharp):

Original > DVD Shrink 3.2 w/ Deep Analysis + AEC Max. Smooth

Original > HC015 - DVDRebuilder 0.94 FREEWARE - LOW/FASTEST profile

Original > HC015 & DVDRebuilder 0.94 FREEWARE w / BEST Profile (no matrix used/available in the freeware version)

Original > HC015 & DVDRebuilder PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 w/ BEST Profile + Matrix "Very low Bitrate""

Original > CCE 2.70 & DVDRebuilder PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 w/ 3 passes + Matrix "Very low Bitrate”

Original > Procoder2 & DVDRebuilder PRO RC 5.1 w/ Mastering Quality + Matrix "Very low Bitrate”

**UncasMS** · 2 Sep 2005, 07:13 AM

thanx a ton, 2cool

now for something completely different
(no monty python, though

)

let's try it the other way around now

i give you some new screenshots and you have a guess, which encoder/options were used; how about that?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

all screenshots were made with identical encoder/option

so how do you think this encoding was done?

**blutach** · 2 Sep 2005, 08:28 AM

This thread takes a year to load. Might be time to split it?

Regards

**UncasMS** · 2 Sep 2005, 08:34 AM

help yourself to a cold beer or nice burgundy and let it load, blu ^_~

no more pics in this thread from me, promised

**LT. Columbo** · 2 Sep 2005, 09:12 AM

for a sec i thought it was time to restart my pc....

**UncasMS** · 2 Sep 2005, 09:25 AM

oh c'mon guys

wait once, be able to check back plenty of times ^_~

where is the first wild guess by the way on the encoder?

and dont tell me, the pictures still werent fully loaded

**blutach** · 2 Sep 2005, 09:33 AM

Waiting ......

Regards

**UncasMS** · 2 Sep 2005, 09:38 AM

lol

swap your 56.000 modem for something decent, blu

+++++++++++++++++++

thread split

**blutach** · 2 Sep 2005, 09:59 AM

OK - my guess is HC Encoder 0.15 & DVDRebuilder PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 w/ BEST Profile + Matrix Very low Bitrate

(PS Cable unlimited

)

Regards

**2COOL** · 2 Sep 2005, 10:01 AM

My first guess is that you used ProCoder since you were partial to it.

Quote:

Quoted in The Princess Bride
Vizzini: Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.

But looking at the pictures, they look like HC's work or
HC Encoder 0.15 & DVDRebuilder 0.94 FREEWARE w/ LOW/FASTEST profile

Quote:

Quoted in The Princess Bride
Vizzini: You only think I guessed wrong - that's what's so funny. I switched glasses when your back was turned. Ha-ha, you fool. You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia", but only slightly less well known is this: "Never go in against a Sicilian, when *death* is on the line.". Hahahahahah.
[Vizzini falls over dead]

tigerman8u · 2 Sep 2005, 11:05 AM

HC with best profile

1 Sep 2005, 02:19 PM	#1
2COOL Kamen Moderator V3 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,059	@UncasMS Thanks for your time and research to bring us these wonderful captures. To piggyback on what you have, I zoomed a set of yours to 200% in Photoshop to show us more details. The first picture is the original, in which yours still kind of had a little blockiness to begin with. You didn't mention about it but I presume you used DVD Shrink 3.2.0.15 Original > DVD Shrink 3.2 w/ Deep Analysis + Adaptive Error Compensation (sharp): Original > DVD Shrink 3.2 w/ Deep Analysis + AEC Max. Smooth Original > HC Encoder 0.15 - DVDRebuilder 0.94 FREEWARE - LOW/FASTEST profile Original > HC Encoder 0.15 & DVDRebuilder 0.94 FREEWARE w / BEST Profile (no matrix used/available in the freeware version) Original > HC Encoder 0.15 & DVDRebuilder PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 w/ BEST Profile + Matrix "Very low Bitrate" Original > CCE 2.70 & DVDRebuilder PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 w/ 3 passes + Matrix "Very low Bitrate” Original > Procoder2 & DVDRebuilder PRO RC 5.1 w/ Mastering Quality + Matrix "Very low Bitrate” __________________ 2CL C Henshin! If you got a dollar for everytime someone called you ugly, you'd be a millionaire...an "ugly" millionaire.± Last edited by 2COOL; 1 Sep 2005 at 07:38 PM

1 Sep 2005, 02:50 PM	#2
UncasMS Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 8,734	indeed, i used dvdd 3.5.4.0 in file mode and thanx for the zoom-in ^_~ ++++++++++++ of course even source frames may already be on the edge and look less than perfect but on the other hand we wont see differences in easy scenes - of course i had to look for those little suckers and (thank god) most scenes do look better with ALL engines/settings used but a macroblock here and some noise there is what spoils a film for me and i'm sort of sensitive for them and having spotted one such flaw i'll spend the rest of the movie searching for mistakes instead of enjoying the dvd Last edited by UncasMS; 1 Sep 2005 at 02:56 PM

1 Sep 2005, 06:56 PM	#4
2COOL Kamen Moderator V3 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,059	Here’s another 200% zoomed set. Note: DVD Shrink is the only transcoder here and the rest are encoders. Original > DVD Shrink 3.2 w/ Deep Analysis + Adaptive Error Compensation (sharp): Original > DVD Shrink 3.2 w/ Deep Analysis + AEC Max. Smooth Original > HC015 - DVDRebuilder 0.94 FREEWARE - LOW/FASTEST profile Original > HC015 & DVDRebuilder 0.94 FREEWARE w / BEST Profile (no matrix used/available in the freeware version) Original > HC015 & DVDRebuilder PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 w/ BEST Profile + Matrix "Very low Bitrate"" Original > CCE 2.70 & DVDRebuilder PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 w/ 3 passes + Matrix "Very low Bitrate” Original > Procoder2 & DVDRebuilder PRO RC 5.1 w/ Mastering Quality + Matrix "Very low Bitrate” Last edited by 2COOL; 1 Sep 2005 at 06:59 PM

2 Sep 2005, 09:12 AM	#9
LT. Columbo Demigod of Digital Video Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 10,671	for a sec i thought it was time to restart my pc.... __________________ *"One day men will look back and say I gave birth to the 20th Century". Jack The Ripper - 1888* Columbo moments... "Double Shock" "The Greenhouse Jungle" "Swan Song" *FORUM RULES* "You try to contrive a perfect alibi, and it's your perfect alibi that's gonna hang ya." (An Exercise In Fatality, 1974)

2 Sep 2005, 09:38 AM	#12
UncasMS Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 8,734	lol swap your 56.000 modem for something decent, blu +++++++++++++++++++ thread split Last edited by UncasMS; 2 Sep 2005 at 09:41 AM

1 Sep 2005, 07:27 PM	#5
2COOL Kamen Moderator V3 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,059	And another 200% zoomed set. Original > DVD Shrink 3.2 w/ Deep Analysis + Adaptive Error Compensation (sharp): Original > DVD Shrink 3.2 w/ Deep Analysis + AEC Max. Smooth Original > HC015 - DVDRebuilder 0.94 FREEWARE - LOW/FASTEST profile Original > HC015 & DVDRebuilder 0.94 FREEWARE w / BEST Profile (no matrix used/available in the freeware version) Original > HC015 & DVDRebuilder PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 w/ BEST Profile + Matrix "Very low Bitrate"" Original > CCE 2.70 & DVDRebuilder PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 w/ 3 passes + Matrix "Very low Bitrate” Original > Procoder2 & DVDRebuilder PRO RC 5.1 w/ Mastering Quality + Matrix "Very low Bitrate”

2 Sep 2005, 07:13 AM	#6
UncasMS Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 8,734	thanx a ton, 2cool now for something completely different (no monty python, though ) let's try it the other way around now i give you some new screenshots and you have a guess, which encoder/options were used; how about that? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ all screenshots were made with identical encoder/option so how do you think this encoding was done?

2 Sep 2005, 08:28 AM	#7
blutach Not a god of digital video Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: is everything! Posts: 24,547	This thread takes a year to load. Might be time to split it? Regards

2 Sep 2005, 08:34 AM	#8
UncasMS Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 8,734	help yourself to a cold beer or nice burgundy and let it load, blu ^_~ no more pics in this thread from me, promised

2 Sep 2005, 09:25 AM	#10
UncasMS Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 8,734	oh c'mon guys wait once, be able to check back plenty of times ^_~ where is the first wild guess by the way on the encoder? and dont tell me, the pictures still werent fully loaded

2 Sep 2005, 09:33 AM	#11
blutach Not a god of digital video Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: is everything! Posts: 24,547	Waiting ...... Regards

2 Sep 2005, 09:59 AM	#13
blutach Not a god of digital video Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: is everything! Posts: 24,547	OK - my guess is HC Encoder 0.15 & DVDRebuilder PRO 1.0 RC 5.1 w/ BEST Profile + Matrix Very low Bitrate (PS Cable unlimited ) Regards

2 Sep 2005, 11:05 AM	#15
tigerman8u Lord of Digital Video Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,121	HC with best profile

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