Screenshots - HC 016 FINAL (impressive!)

**UncasMS** · 17 Nov 2005, 10:16 PM

congrats Hank315 to THIS release!

i am deeply impressed by the speed and most importantly the output quality!!

i encoded my favourite testmovie again - van helsing - 126 min main movie + ~35min extras

bitrate: HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 2.975/600/2.236 Kbs

HC 016 final was used with dvdrebuilder 1.03 pro in OPV mode

- encoding (no preparation, no rebuilding) time was 116min
- matrix: encoder defaults
- idct: skal
- size: 4.518.234 (or 4.626.671.616 byte)

former tests can be found here:
1) http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=54679
2) http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=54761

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compared to all former versions of HC ENC this one looks best:

- less macroblocks
- less noise

- great level of details

the encoding speed in OPV mode was faster than hc 016 testrelease 3 and a little slower than hc testrelease 2

FINAL: 116 min
TR-3: 130 min
TR-2: 111 min

the output size in OPV mode was much better than in TR-2 and almost identical to TR-3

FINAL: 4.518.234 mb
TR-3: 4.517.136 mb
TR-2: 4.440.598 mb

for an OPV mode i'm more than impressed with the size, speed and quality and i'm looking forward to run a test with normal 2pass mode

the encoding times of the other tests i have linked to were:

- cce 270 3pass: 183 min
- procoder: 237 min
- shrink + aec (incl. rebuilding of course): 108 min

**blutach** · 17 Nov 2005, 10:31 PM

That is phenomenal quality for a freebie - for an anybee!!

Really, it is top class. HC certainly is fantastic for low BR stuff. I presume you did it in "best mode"

Regards

**UncasMS** · 17 Nov 2005, 10:36 PM

yes i did - to get the best out of it

it is not only impressive for freeware but take a look at the average bitrate: 2236kbps and consider the fact that OPV mode was used

i guess i'll need to see how cce can cope in OPV mode - i know cce will take only ~64min in opv mode (c.f. my idct tests) but i didnt compare the quality yet

**blutach** · 17 Nov 2005, 10:39 PM

I noticed. Looks almost 1Mb higher! Not a block in sight.

Regards

jeo · 17 Nov 2005, 10:44 PM

UncasMS
you had good taste to show us pictures with fire.
IMHO,scenes with fire and/or water always have some blocks and are hard to encode.
very impressive,thank you!

**UncasMS** · 17 Nov 2005, 10:48 PM

compared to cce and procoder the very first picture is inferior but the others are as good to slightly better to much better

**blutach** · 17 Nov 2005, 10:59 PM

#2 and #5 would be the benchmarks and they are superb. Just a hint of blocking in the woman's face in #2 but hardly that you'd notice.

Regards

nwg · 18 Nov 2005, 12:38 AM

Excellent news.

Is the OPV function part of the pro edition as I only use the freeware one?

I have been using it for a while now and use it over CCE. The beta 2 version takes a while so I have to run it overnight. It takes an average 6-8 hours just for the encoding using the default normal setting.

**cynthia** · 18 Nov 2005, 01:30 AM

Curious

This version - is it right that the title in the program still shows 0.16 beta? Thought I downloaded the right version.

nwg · 18 Nov 2005, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cynthia

Curious

This version - is it right that the title in the program still shows 0.16 beta? Thought I downloaded the right version.

I just noticed it as well.

This is the link I used.

http://hank315.dyndns.org/HCbatch_016.zip

**UncasMS** · 18 Nov 2005, 02:30 AM

no it doesnt say BETA anymore:

nwg's link is the one i used and posted here:
http://forum.digital-digest.com/show...9&postcount=29

the freeware version does NOT support OPV mode for hc btw

**cynthia** · 18 Nov 2005, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncasMS

no it doesnt say BETA anymore:

In some way true that it not says BETA - but it says beta...

hank315 · 18 Nov 2005, 10:07 AM

Well, BETA or beta, it is the last release

**UncasMS** · 18 Nov 2005, 10:08 AM

ouch - you caught me

stupid me

i was looking for the *testrelease* note and talked about beta - sorry

**UncasMS** · 18 Nov 2005, 10:09 AM

hi hank,

whatever you called it it is awesome!

17 Nov 2005, 10:16 PM	#1
UncasMS Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 8,828	Screenshots - HC 016 FINAL (impressive!) congrats Hank315 to THIS release! i am deeply impressed by the speed and most importantly the output quality!! i encoded my favourite testmovie again - van helsing - 126 min main movie + ~35min extras bitrate: HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 2.975/600/2.236 Kbs HC 016 final was used with dvdrebuilder 1.03 pro in OPV mode - encoding (no preparation, no rebuilding) time was 116min - matrix: encoder defaults - idct: skal - size: 4.518.234 (or 4.626.671.616 byte) former tests can be found here: 1) http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=54679 2) http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=54761 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. compared to all former versions of HC ENC this one looks best: - less macroblocks - less noise - great level of details the encoding speed in OPV mode was faster than hc 016 testrelease 3 and a little slower than hc testrelease 2 FINAL: 116 min TR-3: 130 min TR-2: 111 min the output size in OPV mode was much better than in TR-2 and almost identical to TR-3 FINAL: 4.518.234 mb TR-3: 4.517.136 mb TR-2: 4.440.598 mb for an OPV mode i'm more than impressed with the size, speed and quality and i'm looking forward to run a test with normal 2pass mode the encoding times of the other tests i have linked to were: - cce 270 3pass: 183 min - procoder: 237 min - shrink + aec (incl. rebuilding of course): 108 min

17 Nov 2005, 10:36 PM	#3
UncasMS Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 8,828	yes i did - to get the best out of it it is not only impressive for freeware but take a look at the average bitrate: 2236kbps and consider the fact that OPV mode was used i guess i'll need to see how cce can cope in OPV mode - i know cce will take only ~64min in opv mode (c.f. my idct tests) but i didnt compare the quality yet Last edited by UncasMS; 19 Nov 2005 at 10:31 AM

18 Nov 2005, 02:30 AM	#11
UncasMS Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 8,828	no it doesnt say BETA anymore: nwg's link is the one i used and posted here: http://forum.digital-digest.com/show...9&postcount=29 the freeware version does NOT support OPV mode for hc btw Last edited by UncasMS; 18 Nov 2005 at 02:38 AM

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17 Nov 2005, 10:31 PM	#2
blutach Not a god of digital video Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: is everything! Posts: 24,584	That is phenomenal quality for a freebie - for an anybee!! Really, it is top class. HC certainly is fantastic for low BR stuff. I presume you did it in "best mode" Regards __________________ Les *Essential progs -* [PgcEdit] [VobBlanker] [MenuShrink] [IfoEdit] [Muxman] [DVD Remake Pro] [DVD Rebuilder] [BeSweet] [Media Player Classic] [DVDSubEdit] [ImgBurn] *Media and Burning -* [Golden Rules of Burning] [Media quality] [Fix your DMA] [Update your Firmware] [What's my Media ID Code?] [How to test your disc] [What's bitsetting?] [Burn dual layer disks safely] [Why not to burn with Ner0] [Interpret Ner0's burn errors] [Got bad playback?] [Burner/Media compatibility] *Cool Techniques -* [2COOL's guides] [Clean your DVD] [Join a flipper] [Split into 2 DVDs] [Save heaps of Mb] [How to mock strip] [Cool Insert Clips] *Real useful info -* [FAQ INDEX] [Compression explained] [Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams] [DVD-Replica] [Fantastic info on DVDs] You should only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Many thanks to www.pcx.com.au for their supply and great service. Explore the sites and the programs - there's a gold mine of information in them *Don't forget to play the Digital Digest Quiz!!! (Click here)*

17 Nov 2005, 10:39 PM	#4
blutach Not a god of digital video Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: is everything! Posts: 24,584	I noticed. Looks almost 1Mb higher! Not a block in sight. Regards

17 Nov 2005, 10:44 PM	#5
jeo Digital Video Expert Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 745	UncasMS you had good taste to show us pictures with fire. IMHO,scenes with fire and/or water always have some blocks and are hard to encode. very impressive,thank you! __________________ still sending greens(you can't see but can feel) geriatric rock fan

17 Nov 2005, 10:48 PM	#6
UncasMS Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 8,828	compared to cce and procoder the very first picture is inferior but the others are as good to slightly better to much better

17 Nov 2005, 10:59 PM	#7
blutach Not a god of digital video Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: is everything! Posts: 24,584	#2 and #5 would be the benchmarks and they are superb. Just a hint of blocking in the woman's face in #2 but hardly that you'd notice. Regards

18 Nov 2005, 12:38 AM	#8
nwg Left ***** Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,196	Excellent news. Is the OPV function part of the pro edition as I only use the freeware one? I have been using it for a while now and use it over CCE. The beta 2 version takes a while so I have to run it overnight. It takes an average 6-8 hours just for the encoding using the default normal setting.

18 Nov 2005, 01:30 AM	#9
cynthia Super Moderatress Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 14,214	Curious This version - is it right that the title in the program still shows 0.16 beta? Thought I downloaded the right version.

18 Nov 2005, 10:07 AM	#13
hank315 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 21	Well, BETA or beta, it is the last release

18 Nov 2005, 10:08 AM	#14
UncasMS Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 8,828	ouch - you caught me stupid me i was looking for the testrelease note and talked about beta - sorry

18 Nov 2005, 10:09 AM	#15
UncasMS Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 8,828	hi hank, whatever you called it it is awesome!

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