PC Freeze during encoding process

[tigerman8u]

memory going bad and or over heating would be my guess

[blutach]

Did you try jmet's/benbryant's suggestion about 10 posts up?

This happened to me once. I also had to blow in air from an electric fan we used to cool a room. Performed flawlessly until I had the chance to get new fans.

AMD systems (dunno if yours is one) tend to go with el cheapo fans. They get clogged and buggered. If you see this is the case, invest in a real good fan and clean it every 6 months.

Regards

[dafaba]

Well a weekend lost and no better than when it started. I am running an AMD system. I cleaned out the whole case, retired an extra rom drive I had in the case, pulled off the heat sink, replaced the thermal compound with new thermal silver compound, formatted the hard drive, reloaded the operating system, reviewed all suggestions from this posting, and it still locks up on the encoding process, and now dvdshrink just disappears durning the encoding process if it doesn’t lock up the system first. I am left with running a memtest, and a power test, but I don't have much hope of finding anything with those tests as everything else I do works fine, it is just a problem when trying to use dvdshrink. My processor is running at an average 40c, I plan on buying a new heatsink and fan in the next week. But for the most part I'm about done wasting my time, I think it's time to find another way to complete this process, and come back to the dvdshrink problem in a few weeks if ever again.
This has been rather frustrating and I wish I could have fixed the problem, but thanks for all the suggestions and feel free to keep them coming.

[dafaba]

any suggestions on alternatives to dvdshrink?

[Taelon]

Sorry to here you haven't had any success. Before ditching DVDShrink, try running Prime95 torture test, and/or SuperPI I still believe you have an underlying hardware issue. If your system can run Prime95 and SuperPI without failing then we can be sure the hardware is stable, and look into a software conflict.

[dafaba]

Thanks again Taelon. I ran SuperPI and Prime95 and both seemed to run without any problems. I also had my system set to sound an alarm if the CPU temp reaches 60c, I had started that about a week ago when I started working on this problem and the alarm has not gone off. Now the strange thing is that I backed up a disc last night that was from a DVD-R and it worked, then I tried a regular disc and it locked up while dvdshrink was analyzing the disc for the first time, then a third attempt got the encoding to about 60% before it locked up my pc.
The questions I’m asking myself now are, if my hardware seems fine why didn’t the Format & Reloading of the Operating system (win2k) correct the glitch? Could it be the burner? My burner is not top of the line; it is an Aopen DVDRW drive that cost about $45. However my pc will also lock up if it is trying to encode the data from a file on the hard drive that I ripped with dvd decrypter. Could the burner be blamed here??

Process of Elimination, It’s got to be something.

[Taelon]

dafaba, I doubt the problem is directly related to your burner, and since Prime95 ran without fail we can pretty much rule out a cpu/memory problem, but lets continue with the process of elimination.

1) Rip with DVDDecrypter
2) Perform a Deep Analysis pass with DVDShrink
3) Shrink & Backup to ISO or Hard Disk Folder
4) Burn the ISO or Files with DVDDecrypter or Nero

This will isolate the DVDShrink processes in Step 2 & 3 from the reading/burning interface & hardware. If you get a system lockup in Step 2 or 3, disable McAfee and repeat the step.

[dafaba]

Alright, I ripped with DVDDrcryper, and then went on to DVDShrink to do the Deep Analysis, it locked up at 59%. After rebooting I tried to just Shrink and Backup to ISO file and it locked, then to a hard disk folder, it locked up. I then disabled McAfee and again it locked up. What else could be eliminated?
Thanks for the help.

[Taelon]

dafaba, try turning off the Preview in DVDShrink.

[dafaba]

It's never been on.

[Taelon]

This is really puzzling, since you say the hardware checks ok, and temps are ok. It crashes during the encoding phase so it isn't ASPI or an Optical drive problem. I can only come up with 3 more possibilities.

One is the power supply is sagging due to processor load it seems unlikely since you ran Prime95 but still worth watching, this can be checked with something like "motherboard monitor".

Two is that the harddrive isn't responding quick enough to keep the data flowing too and from Shrink. A full defrag and Error check/scan for bad sectors should take care of that.

Three is a software conflict, like your buddy said;

A buddy of mine thinks I have some sort of spyware running somewhere, however if that is the case I have not been able to find it either on my own or with my security software. Maybe my next security update will zap whatever it maybe, if anything.

I recommend getting Spybot Search & Destroy and Adaware (both are free) and let them scan your system for any spyware/malware that McAfee might have missed.

[deuteros]

hi dafaba
i have the same problem and couldnt solve it...
i went back to dvd shrink 3 beta 1. it doesnt use directx and never crashes like the 3.2.15 does.

im running on winxp sp1, with ati radeon 9800xt, sb audigy 2 pro platinum
maybe theres some conflict between the software drivers and directx

regards jay

[dafaba]

Taelon- Thanks for the additional suggestions, Good idea about the defrag and error check, I have not done that in sometime, and that is something I should have done in the first place.(Duh!) As for the hard drive not responding quickly enough, it is a Serial ATA hard drive so it already faster than your normal hard drives.
And as for the software conflict, I am having my buddy come over and this weekend and look some things over, but I will also try those two anti spyware programs.

deuteros- Thanks; At least I’m not the only one out there with this problem. Do you know where someone could get the dvd shrink 3 beta 1?

I will do more work and report on my progress in a few days.

[Dax52]

I had the same problem. There seemed to a conflict with Nero. If you delete Nero your Shrink problems will probably dissappear but then how do you burn. My solution was to download an older beta version of Shink 3.0 beta 5 which you can find at http://www.mrbass.org/dvdshrink/dvdshrinkold/.

I don't think you can save as an iso file but otherwise it seems to work fine. Give it a try.

[Chewy]

W2k, reloaded, what kind of levels of compression is shrink locking up at?
Have you loaded all the drivers and updates for W2k?