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  • dafaba
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 39

    #31
    Dax52-Thanks, that link is great! I got the Shrink 3.0 beta 5 and the encoding process completed successfully, but I could not get that data backed up to a dvdr that would play. I shrunk it and then tried to use Nero to back it up but could not get a good copy that worked. I also plan to try reloading Nero to see if that fixes the problem with the current shrink.

    rbrtpl-Yes I reloaded W2k after reformatting the hard drive, then updated all the drivers, and got all the windows updates. And the encoding process locks up anywhere from 1% - 99% it is very random.

    I also Defraged the hard drive a few times, it was really needed, but did not fix the problem.

    Thanks people, I report more progress later. (I hope there is progress!)

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    • Chewy
      Super Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 18971

      #32
      At 100% compression in reauthor mode shrink isn't doing any real work,
      at anything less(which is more compression) it's having to work your computer
      hard. The reason 3.2 is so fast and efficient is it's using everything available
      to do a difficult job. If 3.2 will rip a movie at 100% but not at say 70%,
      I would tend to believe something's wrong with hardware or the OS or both.

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      • dafaba
        Junior Member
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 39

        #33
        rbrtpl- I think I misunderstood your question when I first answered it, I have had the encoding process lock up on discs that didn't need any compression and on discs that require up to 50% compression. It happens on almost all backups. Most of the time my backups are compressed about 50% give or take 10 or so %. But every once since I started working on this problem I'll get a disc to work, but then the next disc will lockup. The Shrink 3.0 beta 5, did shrink a disc without locking up, but now I need to figure out how to get a good burn from the files it created. I'm sure it's simple, just need to figure it out. However I wish I could get the current version of shrink to work like it did for five months straight before it rolled over and died.

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        • Chewy
          Super Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 18971

          #34
          What version of DirectX are you using and does everything look ok
          in device manager, displayadapters(driver date recent), agp(in sys devices)
          driver current? What's the chipset for the motherboard?

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          • Taelon
            Digital Video Specialist
            Digital Video Specialist
            • Sep 2005
            • 887

            #35
            Hi again dafaba, I'd also like to know the answers to rbrtpl's questions, as well as the SATA drivers you are using. I'm glad you had success with 3.0b5, could you try version 3.1.2 which you can also find here

            I searched thru some of my notes, the only time I've had Shrink lock-up on me was in the midst of summer when the FSB was set @ 175, dropping it to 170 solved the problem. Is your system overclocked at all?

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            DVD Shrink for Dummies Guide
            Search the Incredible Knowledgebases
            DVD Shrink FAQ's - DVD Decrypter FAQ's
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            • blutach
              Not a god of digital video
              • Oct 2004
              • 24627

              #36
              If it is a Nero conflict, try uninstalling it with the Clean Tool. You can burn with DVD Decrypter: Backup --> Select backup target --> ISO image file and burn with DVD Decrypter

              Any chance of posting your latest Nero log - it is located at C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\NeroHistory.log

              Regards
              Les

              Essential progs - [PgcEdit] [VobBlanker] [MenuShrink] [IfoEdit] [Muxman] [DVD Remake Pro] [DVD Rebuilder] [BeSweet] [Media Player Classic] [DVDSubEdit] [ImgBurn]

              Media and Burning - [Golden Rules of Burning] [Media quality] [Fix your DMA] [Update your Firmware] [What's my Media ID Code?] [How to test your disc]
              [What's bitsetting?] [Burn dual layer disks safely] [Why not to burn with Ner0] [Interpret Ner0's burn errors] [Got bad playback?] [Burner/Media compatibility]

              Cool Techniques - [2COOL's guides] [Clean your DVD] [Join a flipper] [Split into 2 DVDs] [Save heaps of Mb] [How to mock strip] [Cool Insert Clips]

              Real useful info - [FAQ INDEX] [Compression explained] [Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams] [DVD-Replica] [Fantastic info on DVDs]


              You should only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Many thanks to www.pcx.com.au for their supply and great service.

              Explore the sites and the programs - there's a gold mine of information in them

              Don't forget to play the Digital Digest Quiz!!! (Click here)

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              • dafaba
                Junior Member
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 39

                #37
                Hello all, here are some of the answers you requested, plus a log of the steps I have taken in the last two days.

                DirectX 9.0c
                Nforce3 250 ChipSet, Driver version 8.18.5, 10/10/05
                Everything in device manager is up to date & checks out.
                Temps in my area are mild, 40-70 and falling everyday.
                I burned away during the summer when the temps were 90+ for
                weeks and never had a problem.
                I don't think my problems is with Nero as I do not get to
                the burning process.

                log...
                10/20
                1. Updated GfxC Drivers, restart
                2. Updated Chipset Drivers, restart
                3. Spybot S&D, scan found nothing
                4. Ad-Aware se,found Alexa.? Zapped her. Rescan, found no threats.
                5. Updated NVIDIA IDE / SATA driver for nForce3 series V 510, restart
                6. Reloaded current dvdshrink, restart
                7. Attemped backup, Full disc 56.3% compression, locked system @ 3%., Hard Boot
                8. Loaded dvdshrink 3.1.2
                9. Attemped backup, Full disc 56.3%, locked system @ 73%, hard boot

                10/21
                1. Unistalled shrink 3.1.2
                2. reinstalled shrink 3.2.0.15, restart.
                3. reinstalled Nero 6
                (doing this to see if I can get new info in nerohistory log as all info in the current log is only from the very few good burns I've had since problems started.)
                3. Attempted backup, pc locked at 1%, hard boot.
                4. No Nero log as burning process was never reached.

                After the last hard boot I went to post this message and my computer locked up, first time it's done that outside of dvdshrink, so I hard booted, and it happened again, hard boot again, open a IE and then my pc rebooted. I then let it sit there powered off for 10-15 minutes, now I'm back up and haven't crashed. This is very strange however. I'm kinda thinkin it might be the power supply. My PS is a 450W Coolmax that is about 10 months old, and I'm sure these hard boots are not helping anything.
                My buddy is going to come over tomorrow and look some things over, he is a master with both hardware and software but knows nothing of dvdshrink or related programs. But something good may come out of it.
                Thanks again to all of you pitching in ideas, I really appreciate it and I will report on my progress later in the weekend.
                Last edited by dafaba; 22 Oct 2005, 03:06 PM.

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                • Chewy
                  Super Moderator
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 18971

                  #38
                  Can you try 2 or 3 things,
                  underclock the cpu but not the ram in bios
                  underclock the ram but not the cpu
                  disconnect a few optional items(case fans) from the powersupply
                  remember only do One item at a time

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                  • dafaba
                    Junior Member
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 39

                    #39
                    I am not overclocking, so I will try to disconnect a couple of the fans first.
                    Thanks.

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                    • Chewy
                      Super Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 18971

                      #40
                      If the cpu or ram is starting to go, often it will run underclocked but
                      not at it's regular settings. For example, a 2Ghz cpu, underclocked to
                      1.5Ghz, might work, just a way to isolate the problem.
                      The best way is to start exchanging components one at a time, however
                      most people don't have spares just laying around.

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                      • blutach
                        Not a god of digital video
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 24627

                        #41
                        Moved to General Computing (it's looking like that sorta problem)

                        Regards
                        Les

                        Essential progs - [PgcEdit] [VobBlanker] [MenuShrink] [IfoEdit] [Muxman] [DVD Remake Pro] [DVD Rebuilder] [BeSweet] [Media Player Classic] [DVDSubEdit] [ImgBurn]

                        Media and Burning - [Golden Rules of Burning] [Media quality] [Fix your DMA] [Update your Firmware] [What's my Media ID Code?] [How to test your disc]
                        [What's bitsetting?] [Burn dual layer disks safely] [Why not to burn with Ner0] [Interpret Ner0's burn errors] [Got bad playback?] [Burner/Media compatibility]

                        Cool Techniques - [2COOL's guides] [Clean your DVD] [Join a flipper] [Split into 2 DVDs] [Save heaps of Mb] [How to mock strip] [Cool Insert Clips]

                        Real useful info - [FAQ INDEX] [Compression explained] [Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams] [DVD-Replica] [Fantastic info on DVDs]


                        You should only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Many thanks to www.pcx.com.au for their supply and great service.

                        Explore the sites and the programs - there's a gold mine of information in them

                        Don't forget to play the Digital Digest Quiz!!! (Click here)

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                        • Chewy
                          Super Moderator
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 18971

                          #42
                          I am getting the general idea that shrink 3.2 might stress a computer,
                          especially after prolonged exposure to high compression.

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                          • dafaba
                            Junior Member
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 39

                            #43
                            Well the problem has been fixed, in a way.
                            My pc checks out 100%, nothing wrong.
                            But dvdshrink still locks up on the encoding process.
                            I tried everything, and I won't go into details.
                            The problem was fixed but transferring the burner to my old dell, and it works on that system, it's so slow, but it works. I may try it again on my main pc someday, but for now this works and it frees up my main pc for other things.
                            Thanks for all the help, and I hope I can pitch in a few ideas on other peoples problems in the future.

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                            • Chewy
                              Super Moderator
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 18971

                              #44
                              Sounds like it MIGHT be a power supply
                              issue.

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                              • dafaba
                                Junior Member
                                Junior Member
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 39

                                #45
                                That very well could be the case, but since evertything else works I don't want to buy a new one until I start seeing more problems.

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