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  • AudioVivify
    Cold Wind
    • Dec 2005
    • 7

    Shrink worked fine, now crashes pc

    I have been using DVD Shrink for about eight months and have backed up about 150 of my DVDs without a problem (using DVDdecrypter to rip and to burn). Now though, Shrink will get half way through the deep analysis stage (sometimes it gets to the encoding stage) and then the computer powers off. Windows doesn't shut down, it just powers off like a hard reset. It does that every time I try to burn disks now. I have plenty of space on my HDD, all my resources are fine, it does bring my CPU usage up to 100%, but I'm pretty sure it always did that. I have also tried ripping with DVD Fab Decrypter to see if the increasingly out-of-date DVDdecrypter was a problem, but to no avail. Does anyone have a clue as to what's going on here? I'm running Win XP on a toshiba A-75 laptop with Pentium 4 chips.
  • AudioVivify
    Cold Wind
    • Dec 2005
    • 7

    #2
    All fans are running fine, I haven't checked temps yet.

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    • anonymez
      Super Moderator
      • Mar 2004
      • 5525

      #3
      laptops are not great for carrying out cpu intensive tasks such as shrinking, they tend to overheat.

      does this happen with any other programs that put the cpu under full load?

      download & install everest home edition, click 'computer', then 'sensor' monitor temps while idle and shrinking
      "What were the things in Gremlins called?" - Karl Pilkington

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      • AudioVivify
        Cold Wind
        • Dec 2005
        • 7

        #4
        No, this has never happened with anything else. I have used it to backup over 150 DVDs, this problem just started. Where can I get everest home edition?

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        • Chewy
          Super Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 18971

          #5
          EVEREST Home Edition is a freeware system information, system diagnostics and benchmarking solution for home PC users, based on the award-winning EVEREST Technology....


          this is getting contagious

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          • anonymez
            Super Moderator
            • Mar 2004
            • 5525

            #6
            bit of an epidemic, isn't it? bookmarked that link
            "What were the things in Gremlins called?" - Karl Pilkington

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            • AudioVivify
              Cold Wind
              • Dec 2005
              • 7

              #7
              Heh.. I did a search for it on google and wound up downloading it from that same site. anyway, temp at idle was 41c (106f), it didn't move at all when I ran DVD shrink, but the same problem occured. The temperature was actually higher than that while my virus program was running.

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              • Chewy
                Super Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 18971

                #8
                what's running in the background when this happens with shrink?

                you aren't running on battery power are you?
                Is the battery in good shape?

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                • AudioVivify
                  Cold Wind
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 7

                  #9
                  Nothing's running in the background and the laptop is always plugged in, it's not a power issue. Also, no new software or hardware has been added (besides windows updates, which I was kinda wondering about in the first place). I'm gonna try deleting the program and reinstalling.

                  Idle temp is now 33c (91f)
                  Last edited by AudioVivify; 29 Dec 2005, 06:19 PM.

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                  • anonymez
                    Super Moderator
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 5525

                    #10
                    idle means 0% cpu load. are you sure your pc was idle when you took the first temp? 8c is quite a jump
                    "What were the things in Gremlins called?" - Karl Pilkington

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                    • Chewy
                      Super Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 18971

                      #11
                      Opening everest would kick that cpu into a higher mode, more heat
                      3.3GHz cpu

                      do you have a cooling pad?

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                      • AudioVivify
                        Cold Wind
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 7

                        #12
                        The first idle temp I took was just a few minutes after my virus scan finished. Nothing was running at the time of the temp check, but it was still warmer. No matter what the idle temp was when I started shrink, the temp still does not jump up to a dangerous level when I run it and I always get the same 'hard power reset' result.
                        I have a cooling pad for my other laptop (an older one), which I tried under this one. Temps were well within the norm either way.
                        Last edited by AudioVivify; 30 Dec 2005, 05:22 AM.

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                        • Chewy
                          Super Moderator
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 18971

                          #13
                          next stab!
                          intel application accelerator?

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                          • AudioVivify
                            Cold Wind
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 7

                            #14
                            next stab!
                            intel application accelerator?
                            What's that?

                            I've realized that the only temp sensor shown by Everest is an HDD temp sensor, not a chip temp, and since there is no chip temp displayed, I still don't know what the actual temp is getting up to. So..
                            I ran Shrink again, this time pausing the program every 10% of progress. It got through the deep analysis doing that and through most of the encoding process, but when the encoding process got about half way through, the encoding speed started to drop steadily. Even when I paused it to give it time to cool it still steadily dropped until it was encoding extremely slowly and then a hard power reset again. This slow down had never happened with the previous 150 or so successful backups. It's like something is intentionally bogging down this program until it puts so much strain (and probably heat) on the cpu that the safety parameter is triggered. I tried reinstalling shrink with no success. Is there another good DVD9 to DVD5 compression program out there that's free?
                            I was going to download the trial version of Nero7 to try Nero Recode 2, but I read that the size of a file that you can create with the trail version is VERY limited, and therefore wouldn't help me figure out if a different program would fix my problem, and I don't want to spend $80 on it unless I know it's going to work for me.

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                            • Chewy
                              Super Moderator
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 18971

                              #15
                              I was going to download the trial version of Nero7 to try Nero Recode 2
                              don't, won't solve anything, too buggy
                              something else is hosing your setup
                              Test an easy shrink job with no DA or AEC, reauthor main movie only, cut extra sound streams.

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