Does anybody know?

[silvershadow02]

Hi everyone, i have been thinking about a new pc and was wandering if there are any motherboards on the market that take 2 x AMD 64 4800+ skt 939 CPU's and 2 x GeForce 7800 GTX SLI graphics cards, and if possible support SCSI, SATA2 & DDR2 memmory?
I have been looking but if they are on the market they are hard to find.

[anonymez]

AFAIK there are no consumer boards that'll support dual dual-core, and none s939. you're gonna have to go with 2x opteron (s940)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128309

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813151148

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813151149

[silvershadow02]

Thanks for that, sorry to be a pain but:

1. Would the second CPU get ignored a lot therefore rendering a dual CPU rig pretty pointless?
2. Will it really make much difference in "futureproofing" the computer?
3. Does anybody know how much my current computer is worth:

Operating System: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition (SP1 build 3790)
Case: ANTEC Plus View 1000 AMG
Motherboard: Asus A8V-Deluxe
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 4000+ @ 2.75 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce 6600 GT, 256 MB
RAM: 4096 MB of Crucial PC3200 DDR400 RAM (4 x 1 GB Sticks)
Hard Disc Drives:
2 x Western Digital Raptors 36 GB set in RAID 0
1 x Western Digital Caviar 80 GB - WD800JD SATA (For OS)
1 x Maxtor Max 10 300 GB HDD with 16 MB cache
DVD+-RAM/CD-RW Drive
Standard Floppy Drive, Memory Card Bay, Zip Drive 250 MB, LAN
20 inch active matrix TFT

Thanks alot

[silvershadow02]

sorry forgot to say the computer is 1 month old

[anonymez]

i can't help but think you're pulling our leg in saying you're planning on buying a PC like this, especially since your current one is 1 month old & decent. have you looked at the price tag?

yes, IMO having 2 dual-core opterons is overkill, will not provide any performance gains unless you're gonna be using at least 4 very cpu intensive apps at the same time, or an app(s) that supports multithreading & you need it to be extremely fast. opterons are server cpu's, and the mobos above are server mobos. IMO don't bother unless you're very wealthy & don't mind giving money away

[silvershadow02]

I can assure you that i am not joking. about 2 month ago i had a Packard Bell laptop, 1.5 Ghz AMD XP 1500+, it was quite slow so i decided to build my own, and over the course of a month i did research on the parts (my pc listed above), ordered them all and built it (hence why i asked what it is worth). A few days ago i thought that i could sell the new one i just built (been as it is only a month old i can sell it without money loss), also i could sell my laptop at the same time. Then i could go and buy myself the components i need to make a pc like the one above.
I realise server components are very expensive, but they cost so much because they offer you the best performance, eg Seagate Cheetah on SCSI at 15 k RPM.
But taking into account the fact that there are no multithreaded programs (that i know of anyway) dual dual-core Opterons would be a waste of money.
After considering the advantages such a rig would give me, currently they would not be much as there is no point having the best hardware if you don't have apropriate software to run on it, maybe in a few years time when 64-bit multithreaded software is readily available i will make such a computer.
Regards

[drfsupercenter]

Do you have a Micro Center store near you? Those people know a lot about BYOPC parts, so I was able to get a video card and a DVD burner and memory for my existing PC... and it worked! (but those people know nothing about DVD media... I remember them saying that Philips was a good brand... then I took them home and they were CMC MAGs!)

[anonymez]

would not be much as there is no point having the best hardware if you don't have apropriate software to run on it

that's right

go with an athlon X2, the fastest you can afford, you won't regret it!

[silvershadow02]

I don't think that there is a Micro Centre near me, i am in the UK and i see that you are in Michigan. I doubt that they are an international company.
Thanks anyway though.

Anonymez, after research i have to agree that currently and AMD X2 is the best choice for the Home User, i think i will sell my AMD Athlon 64 4000+ on eBay and purchase an AMD Athlon X2 4800+.

Regards, Silvershadow02

[Chewy]

bang for the buck your san diego core is a better deal, 10% overclock,
the ram's gonna hold anything else back, unless you can get it to run cas 2 at
200 membus.

I learned a little about that motherboard getting my amd 64 3000 up to 2700.
I used crucial ballistic after the first 2 sets didn't hold a 250 membus.

[silvershadow02]

bang for the buck your san diego core is a better deal, 10% overclock,
the ram's gonna hold anything else back, unless you can get it to run cas 2 at
200 membus.

I learned a little about that motherboard getting my amd 64 3000 up to 2700.
I used crucial ballistic after the first 2 sets didn't hold a 250 membus.

I have done some overclocking on the CPU.
It is stable at 2750 Mhz, with the FSB at 250 and a multiplier of 11, volatage was 1.550 and i placed and AGP/PCI lock on it at (i think) 33.33/66.66
There was another higher setting but for now i just picked 33.33/66.66
I have also got the CPU to 2800 but not very stable, i am not very experienced at overclocking, i think it was something to do with the RAM or Volatage, maybe somebody here knows or has some ideas? I am using Crucial 3200 DDR400 RAM.
If i could get a good overclock on it then i would wait before getting a Dual core AMD X2.

[Chewy]

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html

there's a screen under overclock in the computer section that shows your cpu and memory settings

copy and paste the top part

[silvershadow02]

Currently i have my pc at 225 FSB and 12x multiplier, about a day ago i lowered it from 250 FSB and 11x multiplier. here is the data you wanted:

Generator Administrator
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 5.2.3790 (Win2003 Retail)
Date 2006-01-07
Time 16:40

CPU Properties:
CPU Type AMD Athlon 64
CPU Alias San Diego S939
CPU Stepping SH-E4
CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 4000+
CPUID Revision 00020F71h

CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 2701.69 MHz
CPU Multiplier 12.0x
CPU FSB 225.14 MHz (original: 200 MHz, overclock: 13%)
Memory Bus 180.11 MHz

CPU Cache:
L1 Code Cache 64 KB (Parity)
L1 Data Cache 64 KB (ECC)
L2 Cache 1 MB (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)

Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID 63-1305-000001-00101111-051905-ATHLON64$A0036001_BIOS DATE: 05/19/05 19:33:50 VER: 08.00.09
Motherboard Name Asus A8V Deluxe (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)

Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset VIA K8T800Pro, AMD Hammer
Memory Timings 3-3-3-8 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Command Rate (CR) 2T

[Chewy]

give me the next 2 lines, actual spd timings for memory

[silvershadow02]

(3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)