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  • shug33
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 5

    Sony DVD drive won't detect movie DVD disc

    System: ASUS P5WD2 Premium mb; Intel Pentium D 830 CPU @ 3.15 GHz; 2 GB RAM; Windows XP Pro SP2 updated to present; Sony DRU-710A DVD+/-RW and Samsung SM-308B CD-RW/DVD read; various HDD and other stuff.

    My Sony DRU-710A (Firmware BYX5) has suddenly (within the last month) stopped detecting the presence of any commercial movie DVD disc. It otherwise works normally with: music CDs, data CD or DVD, or Movie DVD burned with RipIt4Me/DVD Schrink. I tried one DVD WITHOUT region protection, but WITH CSS/CPM copy protection, and the system will detect and access it ok.

    Nero InfoTool accesses drive information ok.

    This DVD+/-RW had long ago been made region free with LtnRPC.exe, and has always worked ok; I reset it just now to Region 1; but it still won't detect any commercial movie DVD. Drive is now set to Region 1.

    Uninstalled and reinstalled Sony DVD drive in Win XP; still won't see movie DVDs.

    Recently updated and installed on this computer are Daemon Tools v. 4.08HE with SPTD 1.37; and RipIt4Me v. 1.6.0.0. I also have these same versions installed on a laptop, which is having NO problem playing movie DVD's. The laptop has Win XP Pro SP2 also.

    It seems like this problem is related to region protected DVDs; but I can't be sure of that.

    I would be very thankful for any help on solving this problem!
  • Chewy
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 18971

    #2

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    • shug33
      Junior Member
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 5

      #3
      Thanks, chewy! I didn't know about bustrace.

      Here is the result for the Sony DVD drive:

      ----------------------------------------------------
      Filter Driver Load Order http://www.bustrace.com
      ----------------------------------------------------

      Upper Class Filter: incdrm
      Upper Class Filter: InCDPass
      Upper Class Filter: GEARAspiWDM
      Upper Device Filter: redbook
      Device Object: SONY DVD RW DRU-710A
      Lower Class Filter: PxHelp20
      Lower Device Filter: imapi

      Driver Name: incdrm.sys
      File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
      File Description: Ahead MRW Filter Driver
      File Version: 4, 3, 23, 2 [4.3.23.2]
      Product Name: EasyWrite Reader
      Product Version: 4, 3, 23, 2 [4.3.23.2]
      Company Name: Nero AG

      Driver Name: incdpass.sys
      File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
      File Description: Ahead RW Filter Driver
      File Version: 4, 3, 23, 2 [4.3.23.2]
      Product Name: InCD
      Product Version: 4, 3, 23, 2 [4.3.23.2]
      Company Name: Nero AG

      Driver Name: gearaspiwdm.sys
      File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
      File Description: CDRom Class Filter Driver
      File Version: 2.0.4.3 [2.0.4.3]
      Product Name: GEAR.wrks
      Product Version: 7.xx [2.0.4.3]
      Company Name: GEAR Software Inc.

      Driver Name: redbook.sys
      File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
      File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver
      File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) [5.1.2600.2180]
      Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
      Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180 [5.1.2600.2180]
      Company Name: Microsoft Corporation

      Driver Name: pxhelp20.sys
      File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
      File Description: Px Engine Device Driver for Windows 2000/XP
      File Version: 2.03.32a [2.3.32.0]
      Product Name: PxHelp20
      Product Version: [2.0.0.0]
      Company Name: Sonic Solutions

      Driver Name: imapi.sys
      File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
      File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver
      File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) [5.1.2600.2180]
      Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
      Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180 [5.1.2600.2180]
      Company Name: Microsoft Corporation

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      • Chewy
        Super Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 18971

        #4
        I was going to blame it on daemon tools and LtnRPC.exe, but looks like they are innocent, incd, gear and sonic? fight pretty bad.

        you do have a software player for commercial dvd's?

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        • shug33
          Junior Member
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 5

          #5
          Originally Posted by Chewy
          I was going to blame it on daemon tools and LtnRPC.exe, but looks like they are innocent, incd, gear and sonic? fight pretty bad.]

          >Daemon & LtnRpc I only run when needed. I think that I don't need incd & gear and will kill disable or uninstall them and see if anything stops working.

          [you do have a software player for commercial dvd's?]

          >Yes: WMP v. 10.00.00.4036, used mostly for audio; Media Player Classic v. 6.4.9.0 for movies; Nero Showtime hardly ever used. However, I can't use any on of them on the Sony drive because the drive simply keeps spinning and never detects the DVD disc if it is a Commercial dvd. All else plays just fine.

          [http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B314060&x=12&y=13
          ]

          >Thanks, I just read it: interesting, made a copy. My Registry lists Gear & Sonic only.

          I think Sonic PxHelp20.exe came with my recent update of Adobe Photoshop Elements from V4 to V5. They use the sonic burning software, which I've had trouble with in the past. I uninstalled APE v5; PxHelp20 disappeared; drive still won't work.

          Then I tried Sony's Drive Test utility. Result: Passes ok with CD's (x2); Fails on Write to DVD's (x2). I think this could be a clue, so I ordered out a Plextor PX-760A, which should be here by the weekend. If all ok after the Plextor is installed I'll let you know.

          I think it is super weird that the Sony Drive will lay any DVD fine EXCEPT one that has region protection. Does this make any sense to you? I first encountered this problem when I tried to run RipIt4Me and it couldn't load the DVD I'd put into the drive; then I found that Win Explorer said there was no disc in the drive, and we were off to the races.

          Thanks for your patience, and bye.
          Last edited by shug33; 6 Dec 2006, 03:24 AM.

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          • spuddog

            #6
            Do you happen to have dvd43 installed, I once had a problem with it and my Sony 510 drive.

            Scott

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            • dazuk1972
              Digital Video Specialist
              Digital Video Specialist
              • Jul 2005
              • 853

              #7
              Originally Posted by shug33
              System: ASUS P5WD2 Premium mb; Intel Pentium D 830 CPU @ 3.15 GHz; 2 GB RAM; Windows XP Pro SP2 updated to present; Sony DRU-710A DVD+/-RW and Samsung SM-308B CD-RW/DVD read; various HDD and other stuff.

              My Sony DRU-710A (Firmware BYX5) has suddenly (within the last month) stopped detecting the presence of any commercial movie DVD disc. It otherwise works normally with: music CDs, data CD or DVD, or Movie DVD burned with RipIt4Me/DVD Schrink. I tried one DVD WITHOUT region protection, but WITH CSS/CPM copy protection, and the system will detect and access it ok.

              Nero InfoTool accesses drive information ok.

              This DVD+/-RW had long ago been made region free with LtnRPC.exe, and has always worked ok; I reset it just now to Region 1; but it still won't detect any commercial movie DVD. Drive is now set to Region 1.

              Uninstalled and reinstalled Sony DVD drive in Win XP; still won't see movie DVDs.

              Recently updated and installed on this computer are Daemon Tools v. 4.08HE with SPTD 1.37; and RipIt4Me v. 1.6.0.0. I also have these same versions installed on a laptop, which is having NO problem playing movie DVD's. The laptop has Win XP Pro SP2 also.

              It seems like this problem is related to region protected DVDs; but I can't be sure of that.

              I would be very thankful for any help on solving this problem!
              I know this won't help but I thought I'd let you know, you're not the only one with that sinking ship. I've bought three DVD burners in the past because the other two seemed to die out on me. One stopped accepting DVDs all together and the Firmware failed and another DVD burner caused two problems where Minus discs wouldn't play in some machines after burning on them and I got a lot of broken picture and the Firmware failed to install. I believe DVD burners act strange in anyway after a year to two years and it can be very annoying when the Fireware doesn't do its job in anyway. I can get extended warantees on all stuff except for DVD burners because the companies know they go wrong after a couple of years at the most and they can't afford to fix them. I know Firmware is the first choice for the solution but that's if you can get the damn thing to install. I've only used Freecom DVD burners. Also, external DVD burners are best to have because if you have to buy another you can simply plug a new one in instead of having an internal one removed and a new internal one installed. I prefer external hardware all together.

              Darren.

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              • ed klein
                Banned
                • Mar 2004
                • 880

                #8
                @shug33,

                When you get your Plextor 760A be sure to update to factory firmware version 1.05 or a hacked version for region free.

                Also, manually enable speed read on your 760A optical drive, in DVD Decrypter, in Plextools professional (if you use it)

                To manually enable speed read on the drive, hold the eject button in until the drive light blinks 3 times, then release the eject button and load the disk.
                Othewise, the CSS protected disk that you are trying to read will lock in at a read rate of 2.0 and not what your resources on your computer can achieve.

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                • shug33
                  Junior Member
                  Junior Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 5

                  #9
                  Originally Posted by spuddog
                  Do you happen to have dvd43 installed, I once had a problem with it and my Sony 510 drive.Scott
                  No, I don't have it.

                  Originally Posted by dazuk1972
                  ...I know Firmware is the first choice for the solution...Darren.
                  I think v. BYX5 is the latest firmware for the 710A. I tried re-flashing with it, too, and it didn't change anything.

                  Originally Posted by ed klein
                  @shug33,

                  When you get your Plextor 760A be sure to update to factory firmware version 1.05 or a hacked version for region free.

                  Also, manually enable speed read on your 760A optical drive, in DVD Decrypter, in Plextools professional (if you use it)

                  To manually enable speed read on the drive, hold the eject button in until the drive light blinks 3 times, then release the eject button and load the disk.
                  Othewise, the CSS protected disk that you are trying to read will lock in at a read rate of 2.0 and not what your resources on your computer can achieve.

                  Thanks, Ed - that's very useful info and I will certainly do it. Is speed read enable a one-time fix, or do you have to do this for each CSS disc?

                  At the risk of beating a dead horse, can anyone satisfy my curiosity as to the technical connection between failing a drive DVD write test (writes CDs ok) and the inability to detect the presence in the drive of a Region 1 protected DVD, even if the drive is set to Region Free? (The drive detects and reads a Region Unprotected DVD, or any data DVD.) I'm an EE, but not up on drive technology.

                  George

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                  • Chewy
                    Super Moderator
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 18971

                    #10
                    if the laser lense is dirty all kinds of possibilities arise, especially reading dual layer and writting dvd's

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                    • dazuk1972
                      Digital Video Specialist
                      Digital Video Specialist
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 853

                      #11
                      Shug33.

                      I'm not sure what else to suggest here because as you know now, I've had the same problems. I never got past them except for buying a new DVD burner but don't you do that (at an early stage) because you are bound to have better luck than me where you'll save a lot of money. I believe Freecom are utter pants and so is their Firmware. I forgot you have a Sony DVD Burner and Sony is the best. I didn't know Sony make DVD burners until you posted your problem. I wish I got a Sony DVD Burner. Maybe Sony are better at creating Firmware (that does install). I do hope you fix your problem too soon because I know what you're going through. When I had these problems it was doing my head in.

                      Darren.
                      Last edited by dazuk1972; 7 Dec 2006, 03:35 AM. Reason: Corrected a spelling error that I noticed afterwards.

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                      • shug33
                        Junior Member
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 5

                        #12
                        Installed the new Plextor PX-760A. Cursory tests in Plextools Pro and movie playback show this new drive is working normally. I suppose the old Sony had just failed.

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                        • denbo17
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                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1

                          #13
                          Sony DVD drive won't detect movie DVD disc

                          Hi there. I had two pioneer drives which were not reading the discs that I put in unless I rebooted the computor with the disc left in the drive. I had the drives for a couple of years so I purchaced two new LG DVD/CD/ Double layer drives and it still does the same thing. Anyone out there can help me please............denbo.

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                          • ed klein
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 880

                            #14
                            UPDATE

                            I would not blame the hardware drive, its the ripping software program that can not keep up with the latest copy protections. This is what is keeping you commercial disk from loading in your hardware drive.

                            I won't mention any software names, and I will use hi def software and hardware as an example.

                            There have been numerous copy protection changes to Blu-ray disks, such as BD+ changes, BD live changes, copy protections are changing all the time.

                            Even a hi def LG GBW-H20L Blu-ray reader/writer with the latest NO 2 hi def ripping program. Within the last two months this NO 2 software program no longer works with the latest copy protections.

                            All tests have been done on the drive and software program and there is nothing wrong with them.

                            Even the NO 1 ripping program does not have the latest BD+ protections removed yet.

                            Last edited by ed klein; 28 Nov 2008, 01:16 AM.

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