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  • katzdvd
    Lord of Digital Video
    Lord of Digital Video
    • Feb 2006
    • 2198

    #16
    HaHaHaHa!!!

    For a few years now, I have been drilling out the vent holes in my "plain jane" cases, I feel it helps out!

    Unlike my (un-named family member), who has to replace mobo/hd/ & various other parts frequently... He lives in an un-airconditioned apt., never turns pc off, & cranks thru heavy vid processing day in- day out.

    Oh well, it's only money!!!
    Last edited by katzdvd; 16 Sep 2007, 08:55 PM.

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    • PurpleDemon
      Digital Video Expert
      Digital Video Expert
      • Mar 2006
      • 716

      #17
      Hotter than I remembered

      Here is what everest had to say.

      -------[ Sensor ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Sensor Properties:
      Sensor Type ITE IT8712F (ISA 290h)
      Motherboard Name Gigabyte K8NF / K8NS / K8N Ultra / K8NXP Series

      Temperatures:
      CPU 46 °C (115 °F)
      Maxtor 7Y250M0 64 °C (147 °F)

      Cooling Fans:
      CPU 6250 RPM
      System 2909 RPM

      Voltage Values:
      CPU Core 1.38 V
      +3.3 V 3.22 V
      +12 V 12.22 V
      DIMM 2.54 V
      Debug Info F 1B FF 3A
      Debug Info T 25 46 20
      Debug Info V 56 9F C9 63 BF B8 6E (77)

      I do not have A/C, but I do not remember being this before.

      Is there a FAQ I have missed on case cooling?

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      • PurpleDemon
        Digital Video Expert
        Digital Video Expert
        • Mar 2006
        • 716

        #18
        Got My New Drive

        Wow what a difference.

        Like Katzdvd said the drive supports both speeds and is jumpered 1.5 gbs by default.

        Also my burns are smoother, it seems.

        All components need a good cleaning from the dust that an open case gave me.

        I now have three fans installed in the case.
        Chewy, with your air flow comment I thought I should add.

        Seems to keep temps consistant.


        Here is my new sensor report:

        Sensor Properties:
        Sensor Type ITE IT8712F (ISA 290h)
        Motherboard Name Gigabyte K8NF / K8NS / K8N Ultra / K8NXP Series

        Temperatures:
        CPU 31 °C (88 °F)
        Seagate ST3250410AS 37 °C (99 °F)

        Cooling Fans:
        CPU 3668 RPM
        System 3125 RPM

        This is after being on since yesterday.


        A big for all the help.

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        • katzdvd
          Lord of Digital Video
          Lord of Digital Video
          • Feb 2006
          • 2198

          #19
          Is there a FAQ I have missed on case cooling?
          I still say drill all the holes in the front/case/rear to larger sizes!

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          • PurpleDemon
            Digital Video Expert
            Digital Video Expert
            • Mar 2006
            • 716

            #20
            Originally Posted by katzdvd
            I still say drill all the holes in the front/case/rear to larger sizes!
            I'm curious.

            Can you define "larger sizes"?

            I'm giving it some thought.

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            • katzdvd
              Lord of Digital Video
              Lord of Digital Video
              • Feb 2006
              • 2198

              #21
              Well, I didn't really do anything fancy, just a quick mod & finished it up w/ a paint job of sorts. The holes that were in the case were basically "pinholes", hardly allowing any airflow. I just "enlarged" the holes that are already there I drilled out the front panel holes to 1/4", same w/ the side & back. If you drill the back panel, be careful not to get metal shavings in the case. I had my son hold a powerful vacuum up to the area that I was drilling to suck the chips away from everything.

              Oh yeah, be sure to turn the power off first!

              They do make filters if you are concerned about dust, or you can make your own; I cut a furnace filter down & placed on the inside of the front where the intake fan is, used velcro to attach it. Use your imagination.

              I noticed that after I made the larger holes, the pc seemed quieter; I guess the fan was running "easier", since there wasn't as much air flow restriction.

              I suppose the co-pilot of the Millennium Falcon might have a better way of doing this, but it worked for me
              *cough*

              Then again, Real Men run Linux!!!

              I should be careful, I have been "going it alone" for awhile - anony has not been around much lately!

              Some pics of what I did;









              Sorry if they are too big! I am still learning how to use GIMP, & everything looks smaller on my 22" WS monitor.

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              • PurpleDemon
                Digital Video Expert
                Digital Video Expert
                • Mar 2006
                • 716

                #22
                Wow



                These pics and info give me great ideas.

                My biggest concern was the front intake.

                I'll post later to see if the temps get better and if changes are noted on the sound level of the fans.

                Cheers

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                • subsang
                  Junior Member
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 37

                  #23
                  I use a toshiba laptop 3 yrs old. ventillation was a problem. It used to shutdown in 45 minutes and then restart-shutdown-restart ...progressively coming down every 2 minutes!! Had a hunch it was due to heat - engineering sense. but from IT experts had several sugestions including corrupted software, remove IE7 etc.

                  One day i just put it bottom side up on the bed and sucked out the 3 years' muck from the heatsink and ventillation fans with vacuum cleaner. now it is smooth and silent. no shutdowns. yesterday it ran from 3pm through whole night to encode my home videos. every other month I clean up and no probs.

                  I had a desktop that I spoiled with a vacuum cleaner with a plastic stem. static discharged into it and everything burnt up when I restarted.

                  Subbu

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                  • Chewy
                    Super Moderator
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 18971

                    #24
                    Motherboard Name Asus A8V Series

                    Temperatures:
                    Motherboard 29 °C (84 °F)
                    CPU 33 °C (91 °F)
                    GPU 44 °C (111 °F)
                    GPU Ambient 36 °C (97 °F)
                    DW CDW63G0-D00NF0A 42 °C (108 °F)
                    Seagate ST3250823AS 41 °C (106 °F)

                    Cooling Fans:
                    CPU 2657 RPM
                    Everything is cool and quiet here, no holes drilled

                    just a good case, small slot down low on the front which cools the hard drives, a lot of large holes in the back on the side that pull cool air in for the north bridge and vid card,
                    a small cowling which extends over the cpu fan with a whole lot of small holes

                    one 120 MM quiet fan exhausting right below the power supply and another 2 small fans for the power supply

                    this was the first case I ever had where the temps really went up when the case is open
                    Attached Files

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                    • PurpleDemon
                      Digital Video Expert
                      Digital Video Expert
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 716

                      #25
                      @Chewy after comparing your temps to mine, I am going to leave well enough alone for now. You gave me peace of mind.

                      @Katzdvd Great info and pics. I will refer back to it on a future project.

                      You guys have made this quite painless.

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                      • subsang
                        Junior Member
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 37

                        #26
                        After my earlier post I was talking to my friend who is a IT buff. He said not to use the laptop extensively for video applications. I am looking at the following desktop PCs from HP (I am not that confident of assembling a PC). Any suggestions.


                        HP Pavilion a6120.me PC (GJ444AA) - Specifications
                        Processor, operating system and memory
                        Processor type
                        Intel® Viiv™ processor technology
                        • Intel® Core™2 Duo processor E4400

                        Operating system installed
                        Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium

                        Platform
                        Intel® Viiv™ processor technology

                        Chipset
                        Intel® 945G express chipset

                        Standard memory
                        2 GB

                        Memory type
                        DDR2-SDRAM

                        Memory slots
                        4 DIMM sockets

                        Internal drives
                        Internal hard disk drive
                        250 GB

                        Hard disk controller
                        SATA 3G Hard Disk Drive

                        Hard disk drive speed
                        (7200 rpm)

                        External hard disk drive
                        HP Pocket Media Drive sold separately

                        Optical drive type
                        DVD writer

                        Optical drive speed
                        SATA DVD RAM and Double Layer ±R/ ±RW 16x/8x max supporting LightScribe technology

                        System features
                        Memory card device
                        15in1 memory card reader

                        Modem
                        High speed 56K modem

                        Network interface
                        Ethernet 10/100/1000BT integrated network interface

                        Video capture interface
                        IEEE 1394 FireWire® Interface

                        Video adapter
                        NVIDIA® GeForce™ 8400 GS TurboCache with PureVideo technology

                        Video RAM
                        256 MB dedicated memory, up to 1022 MB total available graphics memory as allocated by Windows Vista®

                        Internal audio
                        Intel® High Definition Audio 7.1

                        Audio connectors
                        3 front audio ports, 6 rear analog audio ports & 2 rear digital audio ports

                        Keyboard
                        Wireless keyboard and optical mouse

                        External drive bays
                        2 external optical drive bays, 2 internal HDD bays, 1 external HDD bay

                        External I/O ports
                        6 USB 2.0 ports (2 in front); 2 FireWire®-IEEE-1394 ports (1 in front)

                        Expansion slots
                        2 PCI (1 free) and 1 PCI-Express 1x (free)

                        Software
                        Pre-installed software
                        Microsoft® Internet Explorer 7.0; Windows Mail; Adobe® Reader 8.0

                        Optical drive driver software
                        Windows Media Player ; HP Photosmart Essential , Windows Photo Gallery ; Windows Movie Maker, Windows DVD Maker ; Roxio Creator Basic, Roxio MyDVD Basic ; Muvee AutoProducer

                        Software - education / reference / entertainment
                        Windows Media Center

                        Downloadable software
                        Special offer: for accessories, software and warranty promotions, please visit: www.mypcchoice.com

                        Software included
                        Recovery partition (including possibility to recover system, applications and drivers separately); Optional re-allocation of recovery partition; Recovery CD/DVD creation tool; Symantec™ Norton Internet Security™ 2007 (60 days live update)

                        HP Pavilion a6200 PC series

                        Processor, operating system and memory
                        Processor type
                        Intel® Core™2 Duo processor E4400

                        Operating system installed
                        Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium 32-bit

                        Chipset
                        Intel® 945G express chipset

                        Standard memory
                        2 GB

                        Memory type
                        DDR2-SDRAM

                        Memory slots
                        4 DIMM sockets

                        Internal drives
                        Internal hard disk drive
                        360 GB

                        Hard disk controller
                        SATA 3G Hard Disk Drive

                        Hard disk drive speed
                        (7200 rpm)

                        External hard disk drive
                        HP Pocket Media Drive sold separately

                        Optical drive type
                        DVD writer SATA DVD RAM and Double Layer supporting LightScribe technology

                        System features
                        Memory card device
                        15in1 memory card reader

                        Modem
                        High speed 56K modem

                        Network interface
                        Ethernet 10/100BT integrated network interface

                        Video capture interface
                        IEEE 1394 FireWire® Interface

                        Video adapter
                        ATI Radeon® HD 2400 PRO, with Avivo

                        Video RAM
                        256 MB dedicated memory, up to 1023 MB total available graphics memory as allocated by Windows Vista®

                        Internal audio
                        Intel® High Definition Audio 7.1

                        Audio connectors
                        2 front audio ports, 6 rear analog audio ports & 2 rear digital audio ports

                        Keyboard
                        PS/2 keyboard and optical mouse

                        External drive bays
                        2 external optical drive bays, 2 internal HDD bays, 1 Pocket Media Drive bay

                        External I/O ports
                        6 USB 2.0 ports (2 in front); 1 FireWire®-IEEE-1394 ports

                        Expansion slots
                        2 PCI (1 free) and 1 PCI-Express 1x

                        Software
                        Software - Productivity & finance
                        Microsoft® Works 8

                        Pre-installed software
                        Microsoft® Internet Explorer 7.0; Windows Mail; Adobe® Reader 8.0

                        Optical drive driver software
                        Photosmart Essential, Windows Photo Gallery ; Windows Media Player ; Windows Movie Maker, Windows DVD Maker ; Roxio Creator Basic, Roxio MyDVD Basic ; Muvee AutoProducer

                        Software - education / reference / entertainment
                        Windows Media Center

                        Software included
                        Recovery partition (including possibility to recover system, applications and drivers separately); Optional re-allocation of recovery partition; Recovery CD/DVD creation tool; Symantec™ Norton Internet Security™ 2007 (60 days live update)

                        Any advice?

                        Regards
                        Subbu
                        Last edited by subsang; 12 Nov 2007, 01:33 PM. Reason: corrections

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