Gaming Performance: Windows Vista SP1 vs. XP SP3

[atifsh]

surprise surprise http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2302500,00.asp

[Chewy]

I think xp would come out ahead on an older less top end machine

I haven't seen a vista machine yet that touches mine in boot time or program loading even with twice the cpu horsepower and 4 times the ram

[atifsh]

I think xp would come out ahead on an older less top end machine

vista not made for older systems... isn't

I haven't seen a vista machine yet that touches mine in boot time

i havn't seen any xp machine that boots faster then 98

but the fact for me is my older system with xp and all the stuff i used regularly installed xp was not super fast to boot, and i hardly seen any noticeable difference with vista on same machine with all that stuff.

new install yes xp sp2 was faster then vista rtm, cant say bout vista+sp1 fresh install...

[atifsh]

bill gates said windows 7 would be faster and will use much less resources then vista.... i wonder what will happen is at that time older systems would be low end core2duo's already faster systems.....

[Chewy]

the big difference for me is I can optimize XP in 5-10 minutes

Vista takes way longer digging around thru all the layers looking for tweaks

Businesses won't touch vista so MS needs a solution soon

[MilesAhead]

takes a while

the big difference for me is I can optimize XP in 5-10 minutes

Vista takes way longer digging around thru all the layers looking for tweaks

Businesses won't touch vista so MS needs a solution soon

Yeah, it's gonna' take a while. I think PCs are starting to come through with more realistic HW to run Vista. Seeing a lot of the new PCs coming out with 4 GB ram and 750 GB or more HD for under $1000. Awhile back just to try to learn some networking stuff I put Win2K Server on a machine that was supposedly well equipped to run the basic setup. When I tried to mess with any kind of message queuing or domain stuff, the thing didn't even want to load. Even when I stripped all that stuff off it blew up(meaning I had to completely reinstall) about every 2 weeks. Needless
to say I got tired of that experiment in a hurry.

The bootstrapping process is really antiquated. I don't know if there's a solution for it. The whole hibernate thing was supposed to side-step it but as soon as you do anything that requires driver install you're dead again.
Plus I stay away from any kind of time-out power down stuff. Just asking for something to break there. Seems like they need some kind of image memory injection or something to avoid loading one driver at a time, then all the services and startup apps. It's all piggy back and if anything on the bottom is broken the tower comes tumbling down. Probably the only thing that would "fix" it is if the entire paradigm became obsolete so they'd be forced to redesign the whole shootin' match.

[doctorhardware]

I agree about Vista and businesses will not touch it. I am glad that I do not have to deal with it.

[locoeng]

I just got my shiny new Vista DVD from NewEgg yesterday.

[cynthia]

I just got my shiny new Vista DVD from NewEgg yesterday.

Much to learn now with Vista.

[doctorhardware]

I see that Vista prices are dropping I guess that I will have to make the leap to Vista at some point in the future. But for now I will stay with XP.

[MilesAhead]

I'm noticing more freewares to either get rid of OEM stuff that comes preinstalled(PC decrapifier) or Vista Tweakers to get rid of UAC and other annoyances. Don't know how good they are but the more that are out there then somebody is bound to create some useful well-designed utilities. It would be great if you could run a couple of utilities on a new Vista machine and get 95% of the tweaks done for you.

This site has some links to stuff I haven't noticed before(aside from the SysInternals stuff there's a bunch of tweakers etc. lower down on the list.)

http://www.winvistaclub.com/download.html

[atifsh]

Vista Tweakers to get rid of UAC and other annoyances.

that doesn't need any tweak, its just a click away in user accounts option.

[MilesAhead]

that doesn't need any tweak, its just a click away in user accounts option.

I know. I got rid of that the first hour this thing was powered up.
Would be nice though to have a bot that set tweaks that say over
90% of power users would find acceptable.. or have performance
profiles such as gaming, video work, file serving.. whatever so that
it would set services settings etc and tell you in a concise way what
is what and provide easy means to set them back.. what are the
ramifications of the tweak etc..

I like to write small Windows utilities but I don't like to mess with stuff
like people's registry and system configuration. Why take on headaches
for crap that doesn't pay anyway? Other people are interested in doing
it so...