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  • atifsh
    Lord of Digital Video
    Lord of Digital Video
    • May 2003
    • 1534

    First few days with windows 7 build 6956

    very interesting no lockups, no errors, no hangups.... very very responsive, everything worked that worked on vista.

    can anyone think of something i can test / check / compared to vista

    i assume this build will be or close to this one will endup being official beta 1 in a month time.
    Seems like as soon you buy somehing, v. 2 comes out 1.5 times as fast!..!
  • MilesAhead
    Eclectician
    • Nov 2006
    • 2615

    #2
    Originally Posted by atifsh
    very interesting no lockups, no errors, no hangups.... very very responsive, everything worked that worked on vista.

    can anyone think of something i can test / check / compared to vista

    i assume this build will be or close to this one will endup being official beta 1 in a month time.
    Can you let it stand idle for awhile and see if the HD runs on?
    btw is this PC your own build?

    I notice some of the newer HP desktops that would be considered "media center" PCs are coming out without the TV tuners now. With my PC(with the TV tuner) one of the biggest annoyances was a bunch of redundant scheduled tasks trying to catalog all media files, cache local copies of remote files etc.. A big struggle to quiet the HD.

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    • atifsh
      Lord of Digital Video
      Lord of Digital Video
      • May 2003
      • 1534

      #3
      Can you let it stand idle for awhile and see if the HD runs on?
      no harddrive issue, vista's harddisk issue was solved also after sp1

      btw is this PC your own build?
      no iv installed it on my main system but on seperate harddisk, dell optiplex 745

      tv tuner is not installed yet as i dont use it these days no cable in this room, will see if vista drivers work for my tv tuner other drivers did work so im hoping this will install easy.
      Seems like as soon you buy somehing, v. 2 comes out 1.5 times as fast!..!

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      • MilesAhead
        Eclectician
        • Nov 2006
        • 2615

        #4
        Originally Posted by atifsh
        no harddrive issue, vista's harddisk issue was solved also after sp1
        I didn't realize that. Guess I'll have to bite the bullet and try putting SP1 on. If it totally hoses me then an image restore should back me off ok.

        Thanks for the info.

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        • atifsh
          Lord of Digital Video
          Lord of Digital Video
          • May 2003
          • 1534

          #5
          if it hasnt installed by windows update automatically or u cannot find it on windows update then it means u have faulty driver / drivers that has to be updated first, otherwise ur pc may end up being screwed.
          Seems like as soon you buy somehing, v. 2 comes out 1.5 times as fast!..!

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          • MilesAhead
            Eclectician
            • Nov 2006
            • 2615

            #6
            Yeah, I burned the SP1 image and started the setup. When it told me it may take more than an hour with several reboots I decided my system ain't that broken. I could put a clean OS on in 20 minutes!! Sheesh!!

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            • atifsh
              Lord of Digital Video
              Lord of Digital Video
              • May 2003
              • 1534

              #7
              best way is to get it from windows update, if its not available there, search what driver / program is trouble, update / remove that program, like i know sym,antec has some issues, otherthen that just a simple driver update will make it appear, and sp1 is a must for vista user.
              Seems like as soon you buy somehing, v. 2 comes out 1.5 times as fast!..!

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              • atifsh
                Lord of Digital Video
                Lord of Digital Video
                • May 2003
                • 1534

                #8
                yeah i make windows 7 down to its knees, mangae to cripple the software so it becomes unstable and thats pretty easy....

                tried to install daemontools but it has some compatibility issue [remember vista first few months]

                then i tried 3 or 4 different free iso mounters and those nasty things i donno what they do OS becomes very unstable. a restore to the begining solved everything. so system restore does works
                Seems like as soon you buy somehing, v. 2 comes out 1.5 times as fast!..!

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                • MilesAhead
                  Eclectician
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 2615

                  #9
                  Originally Posted by atifsh
                  best way is to get it from windows update, if its not available there, search what driver / program is trouble, update / remove that program, like i know sym,antec has some issues, otherthen that just a simple driver update will make it appear, and sp1 is a must for vista user.

                  I don't think there's a problem with a driver. What causes the HD to run on is a bunch of scheduled tasks that want to touch every file on the system. When not doing that they want to open every registry security key.

                  I have it down to the point now where 99% of the time it only runs on right after creating a restore point, since that wakes up the Shadowing service.

                  I have shadow set to Manual Off. After a restore point, it wakes up and runs on for about 5 minutes. Not unreasonable. The security scan thing seems to happen only once in a few weeks. So I'd rather live with the devil I know. Who knows what will get broken if I put SP1 on!! I see a lot of posts on Vista forums where working systems ain't after SP1.

                  I'll have Vista SP1 when it's preinstalled.

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                  • MilesAhead
                    Eclectician
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 2615

                    #10
                    Originally Posted by atifsh
                    yeah i make windows 7 down to its knees, mangae to cripple the software so it becomes unstable and thats pretty easy....

                    tried to install daemontools but it has some compatibility issue [remember vista first few months]

                    then i tried 3 or 4 different free iso mounters and those nasty things i donno what they do OS becomes very unstable. a restore to the begining solved everything. so system restore does works
                    I'm just curious are you running x64 or 32 bit? I'm making the assumption that Windows 7 64 bit has the same guard against kernel modification as Vista x64 SP1. I don't know if any of those tools rely on it. I know Sandboxie won't support 64 bit for that reason. It relies on modifying the kernel(among other techniques) to prevent executable code from side-stepping the sandbox.

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                    • atifsh
                      Lord of Digital Video
                      Lord of Digital Video
                      • May 2003
                      • 1534

                      #11
                      im using 32bit, and windows 7 32bit has almost same guards as vista 64. but little relaxed, like u can install drivers that are'nt signed.
                      UAC got few options u can play with
                      Seems like as soon you buy somehing, v. 2 comes out 1.5 times as fast!..!

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                      • MilesAhead
                        Eclectician
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 2615

                        #12
                        Sounds like it might be good if they learned some lessons from Vista. I heard a rumor you could put the Start Button on the right hand side. After only a few decades they figured out most people are right handed!!

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                        • dazuk1972
                          Digital Video Specialist
                          Digital Video Specialist
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 853

                          #13
                          Originally Posted by atifsh
                          very interesting no lockups, no errors, no hangups.... very very responsive, everything worked that worked on vista.

                          can anyone think of something i can test / check / compared to vista

                          i assume this build will be or close to this one will endup being official beta 1 in a month time.
                          I'd rather stick with XP. If W7 is like Vista then nothing has improved.

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                          • atifsh
                            Lord of Digital Video
                            Lord of Digital Video
                            • May 2003
                            • 1534

                            #14
                            Originally Posted by dazuk1972
                            I'd rather stick with XP. If W7 is like Vista then nothing has improved.
                            thats the thing microsoft is working hard not to make it like vista remmeber its not even beta and it works better then vista.

                            but for me i have no complains of vista i have plenty of ram and decent processor and my system works fine, system running on UPS so last time i fresh installed vista was hmm 4 5 months back. maybe more, but i have upgraded to 64 so had to reinstall and its running for a month or more now.
                            Last edited by atifsh; 18 Dec 2008, 03:43 PM.
                            Seems like as soon you buy somehing, v. 2 comes out 1.5 times as fast!..!

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                            • atifsh
                              Lord of Digital Video
                              Lord of Digital Video
                              • May 2003
                              • 1534

                              #15
                              Originally Posted by MilesAhead
                              Sounds like it might be good if they learned some lessons from Vista. I heard a rumor you could put the Start Button on the right hand side. After only a few decades they figured out most people are right handed!!
                              hmm have to check that, i have replaced harddrive now, will put it back in few days, holidays starting in 3 days for me

                              Update: no it does'nt do that or i cant see that option yet.
                              Last edited by atifsh; 23 Dec 2008, 08:04 AM.
                              Seems like as soon you buy somehing, v. 2 comes out 1.5 times as fast!..!

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