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  • jmet
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2002
    • 8697

    Having computer problems

    Well I got my NEC 3520A today and decided to install it. Well while I was in the case I swapped hard drives out for a 80 GB I bought.

    Somehow I messed things up pretty bad. The only way I can get my computer to boot up is if I put the NEC drive as Primary Master, and my DVD ROM as Primary Slave. If put my 40 gig as Primary Master, it stalls at detecting IDE channels. I thought the burner and ROM drives were suppose to be on Secondary IDE channels?

    The other hard drive I want to install has all of my much needed information on it but, if I make it Secondary Slave, my computer won't boot.

    Believe it or not, I am not real familar with building computers. (Hardware aspects of it anyway.)

    Any suggestions?
  • cynthia
    Super Moderatress
    • Jan 2004
    • 14278

    #2
    If you enter BIOS mode - what have you there as 'boot first device'

    The normal order would be
    1. Floppy
    2. Hard disk
    3. CD-ROM

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    • jmet
      Super Moderator
      • Nov 2002
      • 8697

      #3
      1. Floppy
      2. HDD-0
      3. CD-ROM

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      • cynthia
        Super Moderatress
        • Jan 2004
        • 14278

        #4
        The jumpers back on the devices are they ok? Master/Slave/Cable select

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        • jmet
          Super Moderator
          • Nov 2002
          • 8697

          #5
          What do you mean are they ok?

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          • cynthia
            Super Moderatress
            • Jan 2004
            • 14278

            #6
            Your
            hard disk with windows - master or cable select
            Burner - master or cable select
            Reader - slave or cable select

            The masters should be set on the outer part of the IDE cable - slaves in the middle of the cable.

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            • cynthia
              Super Moderatress
              • Jan 2004
              • 14278

              #7
              Normal way:
              Hard disk with Windows - master and IDE Channel 1
              Burner - master and IDE channel 2
              Reader - slave and IDE channel 2

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              • jmet
                Super Moderator
                • Nov 2002
                • 8697

                #8
                Let me look, be right back............maybe lol

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                • jmet
                  Super Moderator
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 8697

                  #9
                  I have a 40 Gig hard drive. Then I have another 40 Gig hard drive that was partioned in to two seperate drives.

                  If I try to hook up the second hard drive, it won't boot up.

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                  • cynthia
                    Super Moderatress
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 14278

                    #10
                    Sounds as both hard disks are set as master in the jumper settings.

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                    • cynthia
                      Super Moderatress
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 14278

                      #11
                      So basically - if you have your hard disk with windows as master on channel 1 and nothing else connected you can get it to boot?

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                      • cynthia
                        Super Moderatress
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 14278

                        #12
                        Also the IDE settings in the BIOS are they set to AUTO?

                        Should be three alternatives: Auto, Manual, None.

                        Another problem that can happen is if your partition on your hard disk is not set to active using Fdisk or the Windows "computerhandling" don't know what it's called in the english version. (The place where you can manage your hard disks) Could be named Logical Disc handling - it should be in the Microsoft management console.

                        There is also another setting in BIOS that could be a problem:

                        IDE Prefetch mode - should be set to Enabled.
                        Onboard IDE-1 controller - should be set to Enabled
                        Onboard IDE-2 controller - should be set to Enabled
                        Master/Slave drive PIO/Ultra DMA mode - should be set to Auto
                        Last edited by cynthia; 26 Apr 2005, 04:23 PM.

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                        • jmet
                          Super Moderator
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 8697

                          #13
                          Primary Master = Hard Drive
                          Primary Slave = None
                          Secondary Master = NEC 3520
                          Secondary Slave = Toshiba DVD ROM

                          If I have it with the above settigs, it works.

                          If I try to put my 2nd hard drive as Primary Slave, it will not boot up.

                          (Now it is showing my NEC as just a CD Drive. lol )

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                          • cynthia
                            Super Moderatress
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 14278

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jmet
                            (Now it is showing my NEC as just a CD Drive. lol )
                            That's normal.

                            Your 'new' hard disk - is that the 80Gb you didn't had installed before? Is it formatted?

                            And your jumper settings in the back of the hard disk are:
                            The old one as master
                            The new one as slave

                            If you enter BIOS mode - can you find the second hard disk there?

                            Is it when it's trying to launch Windows it hangs?
                            Last edited by cynthia; 26 Apr 2005, 04:44 PM.

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                            • jmet
                              Super Moderator
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 8697

                              #15
                              Well, I got it back to working like it was before. (Kinda)

                              Only thing different now that I know of, is the way the drives are listed in "My Computer" window. It used to read C:, D:, then E: as the hard drives. Then it listed my DVD-ROM, then my burner.

                              Now its alittle different. (Screen Shot Below)



                              Other screen shots below of my BIOS:





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