how to make a DVD with DVD-RAM?

[TexMurphy]

Is it possible to burn a DVD from video files (.avi,.mpg/mpeg or .vob) that is playable in a standalone DVD player? How do I do this? And how to burn a DVD from own analogue video material (I have a capture card with video input)
Thanx for your help in advance... a DVD newbie

[TeT]

Make DVD with DVD-RAM

English:

Hello, I have the Toshiba SD-W1101 DVD-RAM of 2,6 Gbytes or 5,2 Gbytes (2 faces).
I also have a DVD-RAM and I have heard that it can reproduce in a reproductive DVD of living room if it is extracted of the cartridge. Do you know something?

On your question I make the following thing:

1. - I capture and I publish from the Premiere 6 and I record it in format AVI DV (PAL)
2. - I execute the Ulead DVD Movie Factory and position the video to pass it to MPEG II
3. - I export it separated in a directory in the HD in format DVD using the option of creating the portfolios characteristic of a DVD.
4. - I give to the DVD-RAM the format UDF 2.0 (not you if it is the correct one)
5. - I copy the whole content created with the Ulead DVD Movie Factory in the DVD-RAM
6. - I execute the PowerDVD and with alone to press PLAY he/she already goes me.

Doubts:
As alone I have proven it in the computer, not you if it is correct for a living room DVD.
One doesn't eat to make multiple files VOB to jump from a place to another.
I have not proven to make subtitles neither menus.

He/she notices: This answer this made with the Power Transladator 7, so not you if it will be well translated, I am from Barcelona, Spain and I speak or I write little in English.
In all ways I hope we see each other but here and to have if we are able to make a professional DVD.

A Greeting.

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Spanish:

Hola, Yo tengo el Toshiba SD-W1101 DVD-RAM de 2,6 Gbytes o 5,2 Gbytes (2 caras).

Yo tambien tengo un DVD-RAM y he oido que se puede reproducirse en un reproductor DVD de salon si se extrae del cartucho. Sabes algo?

Sobre tu pregunta yo hago lo siguiente:

1.- Capturo y edito desde el Premiere 6 y lo grabo en formato AVI DV (PAL)
2.- Ejecuto el Ulead DVD Movie Factory y cargo el video para pasarlo a MPEG II
3.- lo exporto en un directorio aparte en el HD en formato DVD utilizando la opcion de crear las carpetas propias de un DVD.
4.- Doy al DVD-RAM el formato UDF 2.0 (no se si es el correcto)
5.- Copio todo el contenido creado con el Ulead DVD Movie Factory en el DVD-RAM
6.- Ejecuto el PowerDVD y con solo pulsar PLAY ya me va.

Dudas:
Como solo lo he probado en el ordenador, no se si es correcto para un DVD de salon.
No se como hacer multiples ficheros VOB para saltar de un lugar a otro.
No he probado a hacer subtitulos ni menus.

Nota: Esta respuesta esta hecha con el Power Transladator 7, asi que no se si estara bien traducido, yo soy de Barcelona, España y hablo o escribo poco en ingles.
De todas formas espero que nos veamos mas por aqui y haber si logramos hacer un DVD profesional.

Un Saludo.

[Trilobite]

In order to do this, you need for your standalone player to play DVD-RAM. Unfortunately none of the players do this right out of the box. It is possible to modify the player to play DVD-RAM if you have a player which has an ATAPI (IDE) connected loader. Players I know of which have IDE drives are Sampo 620, 660, 631CF, and 661 ,APEX AD-500W, and Raite 715. I am sure that there are others. Anyway, with these players, you can change the drive for a Panasonic SR-8587b, Hitachi GD-7500, or Toshiba SD-M1612, all of which have RPC-1 firmware solutions and play DVD-RAM. You simply flash the drive to RPC-1 on your computer and then change out the stock drive (loader) in the player with the IDE drive. As to making the DVD-RAM disc which plays in the player, author the DVD (I use SpruceUP) and then burn it with Gear Pro DVD as a video disc. It will play perfectly on your altered player.

[Kevin P]

Just out of interest why do you want to create on DVD Ram? and not DVD-R

[Trilobite]

"Why" is a good question. Up until a month or so ago, all I had was DVD-RAM writer, so this was the only way I had to make a "DVD" to play on my standalone player. Since then, I have bought a Panasonic DVD-R/RAM burner, but it is still nice to burn the first disc as DVD-RAM, test the playback quality on the TV, and then burn the DVD-R after becoming satisfied with the DVD-RAM performance. Just saves making coasters. I guess if you really believed you only wanted the DVD for a short period of time, you could also argue that the re-recordability of DVD-RAM could make you burn DVD-RAM.

[Kevin P]

I think I have the same burner the DVD R/Ram? I find the ram device to be an excellent storage format, fast, and easy.
I have a slight advantage in that I have a nice 20" monitor so can create the files to DVD folders, play the movie from the hard drive with Power DVD and I get a large enought picture to tell if the quality is good enough, then burn to DVD-R.
One thing that does interest me though is the Panasonic E20. I dont know if you have heard of this unit, it is a set-top DVD recorder. It records to DVD-R and DVD-Ram. I hope to get one later this year and if the DVD-Ram discs will work in a PC then I can record a show, edit out the adverts, add chapters ect and author to DVD-R (Big Star Trek fan). But I will have to see what the format is of the E20 and find out if it is compable.

Kevin

[Trilobite]

"One thing that does interest me though is the Panasonic E20. I dont know if you have heard of this unit, it is a set-top DVD recorder. It records to DVD-R and DVD-Ram. I hope to get one later this year and if the DVD-Ram discs will work in a PC then I can record a show, edit out the adverts, add chapters ect and author to DVD-R (Big Star Trek fan). But I will have to see what the format is of the E20 and find out if it is compable. "

Yes and no. I had a E20 on a trial basis for about 2 weeks. I also had an E10 and opted to keep the E10 and return the E20. Both use the same Realtime recording format and produce files with vro extension (*.vro). These are MPEG2 video with either 352x480 or 704x480 resolution with stereo AC3 sound. These files are not readily edited with a PC. Here is the only method I have figured out so far to record with the E10/E20, edit the video (to cut, produce chapters, etc.) and produce DVD. I don't know if the Pioneer Standalone DVD recorders are this painful or not. Panasonic has said that software to work with *.vro files will be released, but I have yet to find any. Anyway, here's the method...

This method will work when only one segment is recorded onto a DVD-RAM cartridge. This means you the recording resulted from the recorder starting, ran for a period of time, and then shut off. If you have a DVD-RAM disc made from multiple recording sessions, I think you are out of luck until some software is released to manage the conversion.

1) Feed ReMPEG2 version 1.5.2 AC3 conversion tool with the vro file and output MPA file
(I used 160 kbit/sec audio output). This worked fine, but was slow. It probably took 2 hours on my 1.5Ghz Athlon, but it yielded a good audio stream.
2) Use TMPGenc version 12H "Merge and Cut" tool to "cut" *.vro file. I use quotes around cut, because there is really no cutting, just conversion. I fed the first frame as the first frame of the cut and the last frame as the last frame of the cut (so nothing was eliminated). Output the video. It goes through the video, then ets "confused" with the audio, so it just gives MPEG2 file with no audio in it as output.
3) Use TMPGenc 12H Demultiplex tool to remove video stream from the MPG file above.
4) Use TMPGenc 12H Multiplex tool to multiplex the audio from 1) with the video from 3) producing yet another file which is now MPEG2 video and MPEG audio.
5) You must cut with an editor which manages variable bit rate video. Unfortunately none of my standard editors do this. The most hope so far is TMPGenc and a program called MPEGTool in conjunction with M2-EDIT. MPEGTool seems to do non-rendering frame accurate cuts. Unfortunately you have to enter the frame numbers without being able to see the video. That's where M2-edit comes in... to feed you the desired frame numbers. By the way, M2-Edit will cut the
variable bit rate MPEG2, but will output in constant bit rate (an awful thing... 1.0 GB files become 4.0 GB). The TMPGenc merge and cut tool works great, but it's cuts arent very accurate.