Half Way skipping

[etv_10]

Hi guys,

I was wanting some opinions/suggestions as to what could be causing this. Latley I have had some problems with some movies where they start to skip and pause (only for about a minute)about half way though the movie (I am guessing where the second layer would ususally kick in). Now when I play them on the PC all is fine, but on dedicated players it is not. If, after the skipping has finished, I go back to this section it is fine, for most.

My thoughts are that it is either the DVD ROM drive I am using to rip with (having trouble with layer change) or the discs them selves, but it is a hard one to pin point as it has happened on 6 different movies from 3 different batches of discs and 5 different standalone players (JVC, Panasonic, 2 X Samsung[different models], Onkyo).

Any thoughts, solutions or suggestions are greatly appreciated

PS I have a Samsung DVD-ROM drive, a Pioneer DVR A06, using DVD Shrink 3 and Nero 6

[etv_10]

So I take it nobody has had any similar problems?

This problem is really starting to get annoying, now I have tried 6 different media types and ripping using the Pioneer A06 to rip, as opposed to the samsung drive, but it seems to make no difference, approximately 1 out 5 times I will get a backup that jumps/pauses/skips/digital static half way through the movie.

I am getting to the end of my rope with this problem.

If anyone has any information please feel free to share.

[sfheath]

Wild guess: assuming layer-change point is near outer edge as discs read from centre out ... are sticky fingers or the like mucking up the edges during handling?

[etv_10]

No unfortuneatly, the discs are completely clean both the original and the blanks.

[sfheath]

Have you tried burning an image to hard drive first and testing in WinDVD or PowerDVD?

How old is the burner? Do you run a lens cleaner occasionally?

Um, are we talking of just the burns skipping? It's just that they're single layer at the moment.

[etv_10]

Yes the image works fine, the disc also works fine on the PC (about 95% of the time) but about 1 out of 5 will skip, Fram and produce digital static about half way through, in dedicated DVD players.

The burner is only about 2 months old, I didn't think a lens cleaner would be needed yet with it being still virtuaqlly new.

Yes correct the burns when played in dedicated players skips/pauses for about 1 - 2 minutes usually half way through the movie.

[sfheath]

Ah, are you using DVD Shrink? I've read of a change layer delay. Check out the DVD Shrink General Discussions forum?

[BLACKGHOST]

Hi there ETV_10 oh yes i have the same problem indeed.......

My problem is I think about 100% the DVD-Rom drive. I used various media/players and have found that if I use say DVDDecrypter I burn the image back to hard drive and then use Nero and all it fine. Soon as I try burn from rom drive to hard drive and then out say using Nero it skips etc. I am yet to replace the dvd-rom drive but this is how I have managed to get around this problem until i buy another......

Hope this helps man let me know.

[etv_10]

Thanks Blackghost,

I did find this over the weekend myself and bought a replcement ROM drive.

I have also got a new problem though, when using DVD Shrink 3, I am getting the skipping and freezing in about the last 15 minutes of every movie ripped with DVDS3 ( this is tested from the image created on the HDD). But if I use DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink 2.3 or DVD2One all is fine. Has anyone encountered this problem??

[BLACKGHOST]

tried rebooting at all????
Shouldnt be doing it thats all. Other than that I cannot help you out on this one man......

[etv_10]

Yeah tried rebooting, shutting down, redownloading it, reapplying SP1 to XP, Changind Drive Fw etc, but to no evail.

Does DVDS3b5 have a compatibility referrance to different DVDRom Drives? ie is it compatible with some and not others? (in the same way Burning SW used to be in the early days of CD burning?).

Does DVDS3b5 have dependancies? ie like SP1 or DX9 or whatever?

[swanside1]

etv_10
What are you using to burn your DVD with, i.e. what software? If you are using nero version 6, there is a problem with that burning a compatible dvd. Instead of burning a DVD movie in the selection, burn it as a DVD ISO/UDF. Let me know what software you are using before I go any further. Cheers

[swanside1]

Opps, sprry Just seen the bottom of your last post, I see you are using Nero 6.
Select the DVD ISO/UDF option and follow the guide I have on my website for burning. The pictures are from Nero 5, but it is the same princple. DONOT SELECT JOILET, as this is selected as standard, so you need to deselect it, anyway, go and have a look at my guide. You can get to it from www.paulsdvd.co.uk

[etv_10]

swanside1 thankyou, i am using Nero 6.0.0.23 (lateste update), with the combination of this update and the ROM drive the original problem seem to be resolved.

But the problem i have now,as stated, seems to be purely with DVDS3b5. After ripping a disc to the hdd with shrink 3 the movie in the last or last couple of scenes is jumping skipping etc. (this is before the movie is burnt to a disc). But if I use DVD Decrypter then DVD Shrink 2.3 the rip is fine same if I use DVD2one.

It seems to be a dependancy issue, which is why I need to know what Shrink requires from the OS, and also what is different between 2.3 and 3 ( in relation to dependancies).

I should also say that I was previously using DVD Shrink 3 fine, but had a system crash and subsequently had to reinstall the OS, since this DVDS3b5 has not worked properly.