Big3 Problem, no video in ReAuthorist

[sirluke]

I tried my first comlete backup with the big3 method on Apollo 13 PAL.
In DIF4U I did everything as explained in the quides, after demuxing in ReAuthorist I couls see the audio tracks and but the video track showed only 15 frames. The files are there. I even menaged to encode with DC4U and everything went OK, exept in RA. Here are the info from IfoEdit, DVDDecrypter and RA:

VTS overview:

Menu attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL 625/50) (4:3) (not specified perm.display)
SubPicture 1: Not Specified (2-bit rle )

Title Set (Movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL 625/50) (16:9) (letterboxed)
Audio 1: English (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x80)
Audio 2: Deutsch (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x81)
Audio 3: Italiano (Italian) (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x82)
Audio 4: Français (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x83)
Audio 5: Español (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x84)
Audio 6: English (Dolby AC-3) 1ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x85)
Audio 7: English (Dolby AC-3) 1ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x86)
SubPicture 1: English (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x20)
SubPicture 2: Deutsch (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x21)
SubPicture 3: Portugues (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x22)
SubPicture 4: Dansk (Danish) (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x23)
SubPicture 5: Suomi (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x24)
SubPicture 6: Polish (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x25)
SubPicture 7: Français (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x26)
SubPicture 8: Nederlands (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x27)
SubPicture 9: Svenska (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x28)
SubPicture 10: Norsk (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x29)
SubPicture 11: Czech(Ceske) (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x2a)

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [02:14:03.20 / 25 fps] (Programs: 58) (Cells: 59) (uses VOB-IDs: 1,2)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:05:05.19 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:05:05.19] [Frames: 7644]
.......
[Cell 29] [V/C Id: 1/29] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:04.08 / 25 fps [Pos: 01:06:32.08] [Frames: 99808]
.......
[Ch 57] [Pg 57] [Cell 58] [V/C Id: 1/58] : time: 00:05:27.01 / 25 fps [Pos: 02:14:02.20] [Frames: 201070]
[Ch 58] [Pg 58] [Cell 59] [V/C Id: 2/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:01.00 / 25 fps [Pos: 02:14:03.20] [Frames: 201095]

Menu Language Units: 1
Language Menu Unit 1: [English]

Language Menu Unit 1: [English]
Menu 1: [Root-Menu] (entry PGC) (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
Menu 2: [Chapter (PTT) Menu] (entry PGC) (Programs: 15) (Cells: 15) (uses VOB-IDs: 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16)
Menu 3: [Sub-picture Menu] (entry PGC) (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 4: [Audio Menu] (entry PGC) (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 5: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 17)
Menu 6: [entry only] (Programs: 5) (Cells: 5) (uses VOB-IDs: 61,62,63,64,65)
Menu 7: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 18)
Menu 8: [entry only] (Programs: 3) (Cells: 3) (uses VOB-IDs: 19,20,21)
Menu 9: [entry only] (Programs: 5) (Cells: 5) (uses VOB-IDs: 22,23,24,25,26)
Menu 10: [entry only] (Programs: 7) (Cells: 7) (uses VOB-IDs: 27,28,29,30,31,32,33)
Menu 11: [entry only] (Programs: 6) (Cells: 6) (uses VOB-IDs: 34,35,36,37,38,39)
Menu 12: [entry only] (Programs: 3) (Cells: 3) (uses VOB-IDs: 40,41,42)
Menu 13: [entry only] (Programs: 7) (Cells: 7) (uses VOB-IDs: 43,44,45,46,47,48,49)
Menu 14: [entry only] (Programs: 5) (Cells: 5) (uses VOB-IDs: 50,51,52,53,54)
Menu 15: [entry only] (Programs: 6) (Cells: 6) (uses VOB-IDs: 55,56,57,58,59,60)
Menu 16: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 17: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 18: [entry only] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 68,69)
Menu 19: [entry only] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 70,71)
Menu 20: [entry only] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 72,73)
Menu 21: [entry only] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 74,75)
Menu 22: [entry only] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 76,77)
Menu 23: [entry only] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 78,79)
Menu 24: [entry only] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 80,81)
Menu 25: [entry only] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 82,83)
Menu 26: [entry only] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 84,85)
Menu 27: [entry only] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 86,87)
Menu 28: [entry only] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 88,89)
Menu 29: [entry only] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 90,91)
Menu 30: [entry only] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 92,93)
Menu 31: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 32: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 94)
Menu 33: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 96)
Menu 34: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 95)
Menu 35: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 97)
Menu 36: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 66)
Menu 37: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 67)
Menu 38: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 39: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)

Here is the Stream Info from DvdDecrypter, have a look at the lenght of the streams:
0x20 - Subtitle - English / LBA: 15879 / PTS: 00:00:41.914 / Delay: 41560ms
0x21 - Subtitle - Deutsch / LBA: 15144 / PTS: 00:00:40.514 / Delay: 40160ms
0x22 - Subtitle - Portugues / LBA: 15146 / PTS: 00:00:40.514 / Delay: 40160ms
0x23 - Subtitle - Dansk / LBA: 18368 / PTS: 00:00:46.834 / Delay: 46480ms
0x24 - Subtitle - Suomi / LBA: 9817 / PTS: 00:00:21.354 / Delay: 21000ms
0x25 - Subtitle - Polish / LBA: 15148 / PTS: 00:00:40.514 / Delay: 40160ms
0x26 - Subtitle - Français / LBA: 15581 / PTS: 00:00:41.314 / Delay: 40960ms
0x27 - Subtitle - Nederlands / LBA: 15152 / PTS: 00:00:40.514 / Delay: 40160ms
0x28 - Subtitle - Svenska / LBA: 15159 / PTS: 00:00:40.514 / Delay: 40160ms
0x29 - Subtitle - Norsk / LBA: 15161 / PTS: 00:00:40.514 / Delay: 40160ms
0x2A - Subtitle - Czech(Ceske) / LBA: 15163 / PTS: 00:00:40.514 / Delay: 40160ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 8 / PTS: 00:00:00.354 / Delay: 0ms
0x81 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Deutsch / LBA: 9 / PTS: 00:00:00.354 / Delay: 0ms
0x82 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Italiano / LBA: 10 / PTS: 00:00:00.354 / Delay: 0ms
0x83 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Français / LBA: 11 / PTS: 00:00:00.354 / Delay: 0ms
0x84 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Español / LBA: 12 / PTS: 00:00:00.354 / Delay: 0ms
0x85 - Audio - AC3 / 1ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 13 / PTS: 00:00:00.354 / Delay: 0ms
0x86 - Audio - AC3 / 1ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 14 / PTS: 00:00:00.354 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.354 / Delay: 0ms

Continues in the next msg.

[sirluke]

Continues.....

Here is the RA log, the screwed up part is marked:

11:05:44 Analysing directory...
11:05:44 Dump of found files...
11:05:44 4294965875 VTS01\VTS__01_P01.16~9_1.M2V
11:05:44 1909079632 VTS01\VTS__01_P01.16~9_2.M2V
11:05:44 386053632 VTS01\VTS__01_P01-80-384K-[0MS]-CH6ENGLISH.AC3
11:05:44 193026816 VTS01\VTS__01_P01-81-192K-[0MS]-CH2DEUTSCH.AC3
11:05:44 193026816 VTS01\VTS__01_P01-82-192K-[0MS]-CH2ITALIANO.AC3
11:05:44 193026816 VTS01\VTS__01_P01-83-192K-[0MS]-CH2FRANÇAIS.AC3
11:05:44 193026816 VTS01\VTS__01_P01-84-192K-[0MS]-CH2ESPAÑOL.AC3
11:05:44 96513408 VTS01\VTS__01_P01-85-96K-[0MS]-CH2ENGLISH.AC3
11:05:44 96513408 VTS01\VTS__01_P01-86-96K-[0MS]-CH2ENGLISH.AC3
11:05:44 593382 VTS01\VTS__01_P01.16~9_1.D2V
11:05:44 171 VTS01\VTS__01_P01.16~9_1.AVS
11:05:44 2963532380 VTS01\VTS__01_P01.16~9_1.MPV
11:05:44 106496 VTS01\VTS_01_0.IFO
11:05:44 32768 VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
11:05:44 32768 VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
11:05:44 122333184 VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB
11:05:44 106496 VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.BUP
11:05:44 106496 VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
11:05:44 13012992 VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.VOB
11:05:44 18432 VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.BUP
11:05:44 18432 VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.IFO
11:05:44 10240 VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.VOB
11:05:44 60112896 VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB
11:05:44 18432 VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_0.BUP
11:05:44 18432 VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_0.IFO
11:05:44 10240 VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_0.VOB
11:05:44 21190656 VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB
11:05:44
11:05:44 Processing demuxed files...
11:05:44 Found VTS01\VTS_01_0.IFO
11:05:44 Finished processing VTS01\VTS_01_0.IFO
11:05:44 Found VTS01\VTS__01_P01.16~9_1.AVS
11:05:44 VTS not already added. Creating a new one...
11:05:44 About to process C:\DATI\FILM - DVD\Apollo 13\DIF4U\VTS01\VTS__01_P01.16~9_1.D2V...
11:05:44 About to get chapters for C:\DATI\FILM - DVD\Apollo 13\DIF4U\VTS01\VTS_01_0.IFO
11:05:44 Finished getting chapters
11:05:44 About to get audio
11:05:44 Found VTS01\VTS__01_P01-80-384K-[0MS]-CH6ENGLISH.AC3
11:05:44 Found VTS01\VTS__01_P01-81-192K-[0MS]-CH2DEUTSCH.AC3
11:05:44 Found VTS01\VTS__01_P01-82-192K-[0MS]-CH2ITALIANO.AC3
11:05:44 Found VTS01\VTS__01_P01-83-192K-[0MS]-CH2FRANÇAIS.AC3
11:05:44 Found VTS01\VTS__01_P01-84-192K-[0MS]-CH2ESPAÑOL.AC3
11:05:44 Found VTS01\VTS__01_P01-85-96K-[0MS]-CH2ENGLISH.AC3
11:05:44 Found VTS01\VTS__01_P01-86-96K-[0MS]-CH2ENGLISH.AC3
11:05:44 Finished getting audio
11:05:44 About to get subpictures
11:05:44 Finished getting subpictures

11:05:44 About to get closed captions...

11:05:44 Finished getting closed captions

11:05:44 Processing structure...
11:05:44 Found VTS01 PGCs 01 through 01. Listing properties...
11:05:44 VTS01 PGC01 has 2 chapters
11:05:44 VTS01 PGC01 video:
11:05:44 Angle 0, 16:9, 15 frames, 1814560.884 fps, duration 00:00:00:15, original bitrate -1007235920
11:05:44 VTS01 PGC01 audio:
11:05:44 AC3 0x80 English 251337 frames, framesize 1536, duration 00:15:41:1717456, bitrate 384000, freq 48000, 3 : 2 + LFE
11:05:44 AC3 0x81 German 251337 frames, framesize 768, duration 00:15:41:1717456, bitrate 192000, freq 48000, 2 : 0
11:05:44 AC3 0x82 Italian 251337 frames, framesize 768, duration 00:15:41:1717456, bitrate 192000, freq 48000, 2 : 0
11:05:44 AC3 0x83 French 251337 frames, framesize 768, duration 00:15:41:1717456, bitrate 192000, freq 48000, 2 : 0
11:05:44 AC3 0x84 Spanish 251337 frames, framesize 768, duration 00:15:41:1717456, bitrate 192000, freq 48000, 2 : 0
11:05:44 AC3 0x85 English 251337 frames, framesize 384, duration 00:15:41:1717456, bitrate 96000, freq 48000, 1 : 0
11:05:44 AC3 0x86 English 251337 frames, framesize 384, duration 00:15:41:1717456, bitrate 96000, freq 48000, 1 : 0
11:05:44 No subpicture streams found
11:05:44
11:05:44
11:05:44
11:05:44 Auto-Size clicked...
11:05:44 VTS01 (raw: -1040784) (muxed: -1104903)
11:05:44 VIDEO_TS Size (217022464)
11:05:44 Total DVD Size (raw: -1040784) (muxed: -1104903) (total: 215917561)
11:05:44
11:05:44 Encoding list:

"C:\DATI\FILM - DVD\Apollo 13\DIF4U\VTS01\VTS__01_P01.16~9_1.AVS",0,8456,-1007235920,0,2

11:05:44 VTS01 PGC01 angle 0 original muxed video size = -1104903
11:05:44 Calculating size...
11:05:44 Audio+Subs = 0
11:05:44 VIDEO_TS = 217022464
11:05:44 Original muxed video = -1104903
11:05:44 Initial reduction = -4039.248274
11:05:44 Finished auto sizing...
11:05:44 VTS01 (raw: -1120343) (muxed: -1189363)
11:05:44 VIDEO_TS Size (217022464)
11:05:44 Total DVD Size (raw: -1120343) (muxed: -1189363) (total: 215833101)
11:05:44
11:05:44 Encoding list:

"C:\DATI\FILM - DVD\Apollo 13\DIF4U\VTS01\VTS__01_P01.16~9_1.AVS",0,8456,-1084230453,0,2

Any hint????
Thanks.

[setarip]

"Any hint????"

Use DVD Shrink...

[sirluke]

That was not the kind of help I was hoping for. DVD Shrink is fast and easy, but the quality is not that great.
Thanks anyway.

[sfheath]

I find you can compress a fair way with Shrink before quality loss is noticeable. You can always Re-author and strip out some of the extras like the foreign soundtracks.

[sirluke]

That's not what I need to know.
I know how to use Shrink, I know how to rip off the dvd what I don't want.
What I want is a FULL dvd backup.
Now, I asked a solution to a problem regarding the Big3 and you Forum guys (A golg member and a Demigod) keep telling me to use Shrink.
Thanks anyway, I'll try on other discussion forums.

[sfheath]

Dunno what you mean by Big3
Apollo 13 is 7.45GB though - will need splitting if not shrinking.
Good luck

[sirluke]

The Big3 Method is the one that uses DoItFast4u, ReAuthorist and DoCCE4U, together with CCE SP and Scenarist.