Dare Thread

[NightTran]

I turn every thing on

[gonwk]

Hey Chewy,

I noticed your 1650 has BCFC firmware ... is BenQ updating 1650 firmware faster than they 1655 F/W?

G!

[Chewy]

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2224

mine was an interim one out of china

[NightTran]

I still use BCDB for 1655, just a matter of your taste

[thesmallelder]

Hmm, it's really possible to get better burns with quicker speeds? I've been burning discs at 2x (discs are rated at 1-16X, but I always have followed the rules that slower=better usually); do you think I would get better burns burning the discs at 4x or 8x?

I'll have to give it a try tomorrow.

[gonwk]

Hi folks,

@ Chewey ... THANKS!

@ NightTran, my 1655 came with BCGB and I am happy as clam with it. I think you can get it from a Chinese site.

@ thesmallelder, what Media is your 16X? If is a Verb or TY ... I always burn my 8X at 8X and 16X at 8X or whatever my mood strikes me ... usually never faster than 12X. But burning at 2X is way too slow. I think the best Rule is either BluTach or someone else that I read and says with Quality Media go at Half the Rated Speed of your blank. BTW, your "Burner" will make a difference also.

G!

[geno888]

Brand: Verbatim -R 16x (made in India)
Mediacode: MCC03RG20
Burner: Lite-on 1693 KS0A
Software: CD-DVD Speed 4.51.1
Burnspeed possible: 6x - 8x - 12x - 16x
Burnspeed selected: 16x
Booktype: -R
Burning time: 6:21

First pic is the burn, second is the scan, third is TRT

[Chewy]

too bad the new liteons can't do that with -R media

nice to see you found some good blanks geno!

[geno888]

Thanks

Here there is another burn

Brand: Verbatim -R 16x (made in India)
Mediacode: MCC03RG20
Burner: Lite-on 1693 KS0A
Software: CD-DVD Speed 4.51.1
Burnspeed possible: 6x - 8x - 12x - 16x
Burnspeed selected: 16x
Booktype: -R
Burning time: 6:17

Not bad except for that single spike around 3,8 GB

[gonwk]

Hi Geno,

Q1: Where you say "Software" NERO 4.51.1 ... you are using this just to post your graphs right?

Q2: How did you get only 70% with the above burn ... your PIEs are low ... except the one single one ... even that for 8 is not bad!?!?!? I am puzzled!!!

Thanks!
G!

[NightTran]

Gonwk, this is a dare thread he burned at 16x, yes 70 is bad but you never know when you burn with your 16x

[Chewy]

a liteon or soup's samsung uses a 1 ecc scanning interval
benq and nec's use an 8ecc

a pif max of 4 with liteon is ~= to a 16 with a benq
both give a QS of 90

a single rogue spike gives a bad score, speck of dust?

the pif totals show about the same, that's what I go on more than QS

looking at the errors and the burn graph, I don't see any indication that 16x
did anything bad, probably a bad spot on the disk

[gonwk]

Hi folks,

@Chewy, Thanks for the explanation ... it helped me.
Chewy as far as PIF totals ... is that why you asked for any posts to be under 1000! Is that a good number to go by for a "Decent" Burn.

G!

[Chewy]

well 100 is a great burn, 1000 still good, 10,000 just fair, 100,000 forget it

[soup]

I just had to.

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