Dazzle DVC 150

[rsquirell]

I still had a couple of SVCD's I made last year ( I've been doing nothing but burning DVD's since)...so I took one down to check. It was rejected...after carefully reading manual discovered the CD's it plays are audio CD's or MP3's. My error...I guess you need phillips for SVCD. Oops.

[atifsh]

Originally posted by rsquirell
I still had a couple of SVCD's I made last year ( I've been doing nothing but burning DVD's since)...so I took one down to check. It was rejected...after carefully reading manual discovered the CD's it plays are audio CD's or MP3's. My error...I guess you need phillips for SVCD. Oops.

my philips rocks... hehe

bythe way i was talking bout not svcd's but plain mpeg2 files at dvd bitrates round 4500 to 5000 without authering on CDR's. thats what this philips can play it rocks i can see my dv to mpeg2 movie at dvd quality........

[rsquirell]

Outrageous!

[helpa]

I'm still having problem figuring out what is the output format of the Dazzle:

When I capture the video using the DVXCELKSTest.exe utility even if I use the "standard" SVCD spec (480x575 and 2520 birthrate)

TMPGEnc refuses to open this file, and VCDEasy says it need to be padded and then during the scanning if founds out a lot of "unknown private_data_id for private stream 1 seen (0xa0)"

Maybe it's the LPCM that cause the problems?

Is there a good and quick way to reencode the audio so it will be a standard mpeg2 file without reencoding the video?

[atifsh]

480*576 is what svcd standard is.....

dont know what dvc 150 gives as a final result, but if its svcd standard try just burning with nero, if it says hav to reencode then that eans its not mpeg2 standard.

may i also suggest downloading trial of either powerdirector or video studio7 and make ur svcd frm there just to check.

[rsquirell]

You should capture at the 720X480(NTSC) 8000kbps Max 7000kbps Min VBR with the Test Utility to get the best possible source (if you have a USB2 port). I haven't made a SVCD, but I'll tell you how I make a DVD with TMPGenc (the only difference is the template selection). First...merge all of your capture files using HJSplit (freeware found on this site.) Second...you must shave off the first few kilobytes of the merged DVXCEL file in order to shave off the video headers (otherwise the video will pixcellate badly)(use MPEG2CUT...freeware found here..move the sliderbar just a tad forward, set start point and process), Thirdly...you need to demux the video & audio streams out (in TMPGenc go to File>>MPEGTools>>Demultiplex load the shaved, merged file in "source, double click and save the video and audio streams and save them. You will note the video stream will have the box checked but no information and will save as an m2v file...the audio stream will have the box checked followed by audio information and it'll save as a Linear PCM .Wav file.) Fourthly...you need to convert the audio so TMPGenc will work with it. In the main screen of TMPGenc click "Ctrl N" to reset project...load the .Wav in audio source window and hit "start" and an .mp2 file will be automatically created. Now...you can load your video...click "Ctrl N" and put the .m2v in "video Source" and the .mp2 in "audio source" windows. Invariably the video will be out-of-synch...so go to "settings", in the "General" area select MPEG2 and CQ (rather than VBR)...then click "Advanced" and in "source Range" find the "Audio Correction" box. I always start with +400MSec. and then "OK" out back to main screen area. Then go to "Load"...here you'll select the template to make it a SVCD and "OK" out. Hit "Start" and process enough movie to go past a scene with lip movement, abort, view video to check synch. If stll out...revisit "Audio Correction" and make adjustments (+ if voice before lips move and - if after...hint: 1000MSec=1Sec.) When satisfied that synch is right, hit "start" and process whole film. If this is too mindboggling for a beginner, might I sugget you try a trial copy of ULead Video Studio 7 (It'll readilty accept Dazzle's LPCM audio). Just select the SVCD template and load the DVXCEL captures in order into the storyboard and hit "Go". TMPGenc is prettier...but VS7 is easier.

[atifsh]

Originally posted by rsquirell
TMPGenc is prettier...but VS7 is easier.

Woohh
nice comparision dude

[helpa]

That was really an elaborate answer.

Couple of remarks:
1. I need to resample to 44.1 (the Dazzle is LPCM 48) do you think that tmpgenc is the best way (maybe BeSweet or SSRC ??)
2. What I was trying to do is avoid the encoding:
a) Take your advice and capture at 480x576 and bitrate=2520.
b) demultiplex the video and audio (TMPGenc)
c) convert the audio LPCM -> mpeg (224Kb)
d) multiplex the two streams (TMPGenc)
e) generate SVCD (i.e. cue, bin) using VCDEasy

Is this possible at all ???

Originally posted by rsquirell
Second...you must shave off the first few kilobytes of the merged DVXCEL file in order to shave off the video headers (otherwise the video will pixcellate badly)(use MPEG2CUT...freeware found here..move the sliderbar just a tad forward, set start point and process),

Wow - I did noticed pixalization!! Are you saying I should do this on every Dazzle capture??

[rsquirell]

No...just in TMPGenc...it doesn't like the video headers (as well as the LPCM audio) that Dazzle makes. Other reasons for pixcellation include trying to capture at too high a bitrate. You can only achieve the high bitrates with a USB2 port...if yours is USB1.1 you'll start noticing pixcellation as you approach 6000kbps. The NTSC SVCD template for SVCD is 480X480. And why do you want to convert from 48000 to 44000? That could affect your synch.

[helpa]

SVCD format is 44.1 and not 48KHz so I must resmple.
I don't think this can influence the sync in any way as the timing of both signals remains identical. The only difference is that you probably going to loose some quality due to the resampling.

use MPEG2CUT...freeware found here..move the sliderbar just a tad forward, set start point and process

I don't follow- The mpeg headers contains information about the file so if you cut with mpeg2cut you just delete data and CHANGE the header not remove it, right ??

Maybe you meant that by this operation you let MPEG2CUT generate new headers which are readable by TMPGEnc ?


BTW, you mentioned somewhere that there was a lot of information in the Dazzle forum. Is there any way to retrieve that ?

[rsquirell]

The video header information ( unlike audio headers) is only contained in the first few kilobytes of the movie. This eliminates them. I noticed that the DVXCEL files made subsequent to the first file had no header info...and processed without pixcellation. But the first DVXCEL capture file (with headers) and merged files would. So I trimmed off the first few kilobytes...got rid of the video headers, and everything worked fine. The Dazzle forum was moved to the Pinnacle site in August...I haven't been there since...word was that the old knowledgebase wasn't going to be kept (since Pinnacle wanted everyone to upgrade to Studio8.) You might check it out...a lot of good people in the old forum.

[helpa]

I'll look deeper into the headers issue. I will see if I can remove/change all the "dazzle related" info .

BTW, I do have USB2 but do you have any suggestion on how can I be sure that it's recognized as USB2 connection by the Dazzle ?

[rsquirell]

is it a card or a built-in USB2 port?

[helpa]

It's a build-in port (I'm using an IBM R40 laptop)

[rsquirell]

Then your dazzle will work with it...You had asked a specific question..."how to get dazzle capture to work with TMPGenc"...so I gave you a specific answer. The way I'm currently creating DVD's might be of interest to you. First I capture using 352X480 CBR at 2400kbps with the Test Utility. Then I merge all capture DVXCEL files and take the merged file into TMPGenc DVD Author to edit and build the VIDEO_TS files...which I then take to DVDShrink (freeware found on this site). I give it a level 4 (20%) shrink and merge the VOB's which contain the video (starting with VTS_01_1.vob)...then take the merged VOB to TMPGenc, demux the video, audio streams out and convert the audio to .mp2. then I go to MPEGTools>>Simple Multiplex, select MPEG2 Program VBR...load .m2v in "video source" (the .mp2 automatically pops into audio source) and run. Result is a MPEG2 1/2 the size of the capture file. You can then open TMPGenc...Use the Wizard to make your SVCD (It'll accept this MPEG2 and convert everything to conform to the SVCD template ...including the resolution, bitrate and audio speed)