legalities

[silentshadow420]

what exactly are the reprocutions from creating divx and wm8 from dvd? Could you actually do any jail time for this? Or is it such a big explosion that it is only cost efficiant to go after big time players like peer to peer file trading networks e.g. Napster, Information forums e.g. Digital Digest, or even program projects e.g. Divx, Flask, etc. Has anybody ever heard of any arrests for this? I'm not sure all the legalities of the issue. Does anybody have some info with examples of people or companies exposed to these legalized enjustices.

[Enchanter]

I have never heard of any such things (Not that I ever paid attention to it!), although I've heard plenty of threats and heavy punishments for even possessing rips.

My thought is there are many people who are capable of ripping DVDs and it's not worth the effort (and cost) to try to "catch" them one by one. Hence, the easier method would be to stop distribution of it through the big players, like Kazaa and others. Well, I don't personally use Kazaa and so, hopefully someone more knowledgeable in this "area" can enlighten us further.

[silentshadow420]

bummer

thanks Enchanter for the quick responce.
I understand that there is a lot of legalities involved with this, but
I have never seen hard proof that it is jailable. Nothing but rumors and the persecution of the one for publishing decss.

1. does anyone know who created decss?
2. does anyone know of anyone doing time for this?
3. would it be a mistaminor or felany?
4. is there geographical differences in the law?
5. url, documentation, proof, any supporting documents?
6. what holds more water fair use vs. digital millinium act?

i'm thinking any of these questions could shed a little light on the matter.

ps
evolution is the natural course of the universe.
8 track~>reel to reel~>tape~>Cd~>?
vhs~>dvd~>?

[Enchanter]

Check this out:

http://online.securityfocus.com/news/306

[silentshadow420]

thanks

thanks for the info.
sorry to keep asking question, but I need to know the possibilities.
so are the programs still based on the old decss code?
does it still concider the newer programs as illegal?
not to ask this over and over, but
what is the penalty in the USA for use of these products?

[Enchanter]

I honestly think you're excessively worried on this subject. As you know, MP3 files are strictly not legal either and what difference does it make if you own ripping software? Apart from DVD ripper software, all else are pretty much 'okay.' Encoders are used for various other purposes aside from DVD ripping, such as video capture editing. Also, remember, you have the right to make back-up copies of DVDs you own and hence, that necessitates the existence of these softwares.

As I stated earlier, owning these softwares only make you one bug amongst millions of others and it just is not worth the effort (and cost) to get you all one by one. Also, even if they do random raids (which just is not a good idea either), it's not going to have much effect on the big picture.

If you're really worried though, delete all the 'troublesome' files and softwares and buy DVDs as your sole source of entertainment. It's not something I would ever dream of doing though.

[silentshadow420]

thanks

thanks for all the info
i'm just a little paranoid
you should see me when a cop is around
i'm cool/sly but scared for my life at the same time
everyone says i'm the most paranoid person around
so enchanter you rule for all the help you provided
thanks
ss420

[Enchanter]

No worries. Take some rest from your worries. It will do you good in the long run.

[silentshadow420]

no worries

i'm just a freak
so tell me do you know anything about windows media player?
i'm looking to find a way to put a divx codec into the older version windows media 6 i think. the one supported by the windows nt os. the catch is my cd access will be cut off if i have unlicensed software on my computer so no additional crap is available bare bones codec only no gui control or start menu options.

[Enchanter]

Having the DivX codec installed in your system will enable ANY players in your system to use that codec. You do not need to install the codec one by one for each player. By the way, I am still able to play music CDs in WMP6.4, Winamp, Musicmatch and any other players you care to name. Oh yes! I have the DivX codec installed too, along with many other ripping softwares! The Windows 2000 system that I'm using is also based on the NT kernel.

Does that satisfy your questions?

p.s. You're letting yourself controlled, you know.

[silentshadow420]

codecs

my work has a program that searches for unregistered programs, exacutables, etc. and after it finds one it shuts down all cd access. I need a way to stick the divx codec into the wmp6 for nt to playback without any reminences to shut me down. I can watch wm8 only the auto update in the player can not find any codecs in windows library to load. i'm afraid that the remainder of divx's install may destroy my capability of watching wm8

[Enchanter]

Oh well, You're not supposed to be watching anything while at work, are you?

[silentshadow420]

why not?

if i'm still the most productive and have the best quality of all that i work with then what does it hurt.
thanks anyways for the
i've been in the divx forum getting the in and outs of the deal
custom install exe's without all the bs
i heard it has something to do with just placing a codec directly into the windows media player.