One of my HD died

[NightTran]

I just wonder is any thing that I can do to recover, when Ever I plug it in the system can not boot up.

Thanks

[gonwk]

Hi NT,

How goes it? Hope nothing major was on it!!!

Have you tried pulling it out and see if it runs as external using a different PC or laptop!?!

G!

[NightTran]

it is an internal sata so I can't plug in to another comp, next one I think I would buy an external with the sata hook up , nothing major in it but there are some files that I can let other pp see

[soup]

Please wait for confirmation on this thought, but what happens if you unplug, boot up & then plug it back in when everything is back up? Again please wait on one of the pros, I don't want you to screw anything up on my advice.

[Chewy]

soup that's dangerous and liable to smoke a lot of stuff

[soup]

Is that dangerous just for hard drives or is it for optical drives as well? BTW that's exactly why I said wait for one of the pros.

[Chewy]

it's dangerous for anything, usb drives/devices, very dangerous for pci cards(I accidently left out a screw on a sound card and it fell out of the slot when I plugged the speakers in/ toast!)

night does bios see the drive?

drive management?

have you checked the cables/connections?

[soup]

@Chewy, depending on the chipset & board, if it has hot plug capability & you left the power plug in, data cable unplugged & then plug it back in when everything is back up, still too dangerous?

[Chewy]

if your mobo/chipset support hot plugging it's safe, that's a big if tho and one I don't
intend to test on any of my computers

what you suggested would only help if night had overtaxed his power supply somehow and the computer could not get enough juice to recognize the drive at post, he could test with all other drives disconnected

[NightTran]

it's dangerous for anything, usb drives/devices, very dangerous for pci cards(I accidently left out a screw on a sound card and it fell out of the slot when I plugged the speakers in/ toast!)

night does bios see the drive?

drive management?

have you checked the cables/connections?

can't even go to bios if the drive is plug in, I swapt the cable and the same drive is bad by the dianose

[Chewy]

sounds like it has an electrical short, have seen drives like that blow the power supply

cuss and fuss at the manufacturer if it's still under warranty

[katzdvd]

if it has hot plug capability

I learned awhile ago that not all SATA is "hot swappable", as I originally thought; to play it safe, I no longer hot swap anything, as per Chewy's advice; I had a USB hub go bad recently & I am guessing it was because we used to hot plug it alot w/ printers, cameras, mp3 player, etc.

Good Luck Night!

[RFBurns]

So with the drive plugged in, the system wont fire up, with it disconnected it will turn on.

Either that drive has something loading down the power supply (+12v rail) or the power supply has a fault and is failing under load.

Hot swapping on unknowns is rather risky...can surge other systems on the mobo and fry the whole thing.

On certian hot swappable drives there are protection diodes across the b+ rails to prevent surging. Tho it doesnt happen too often, these diodes can short which in turn would load down the supply rail, making one think there is a short because that is how it would act like.

These diodes, depending on age of the drive, might be inside a chip or independant diodes on the printed circuit board underneath the drive. If they are individual diodes, these can be replaced if your experienced with soldering surface mount components, if they are in the ic package, that takes a bit more effort and paitence since the ic package is of the surface mount type and the leads are extremely small.

Of course you could find another drive just like it with the same specs and swap the printed circuit boards between the two, see if the drive becomes functional again.