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  • Big Spanks
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2005
    • 4

    Newbie In need of lots of help

    I recently just got into the whole DVD copying i have a Sony 16x DL burner, i usually use Sony 8x DVD+R, and have a Zeneth DVDRW player. I use DVD Cloner II and i have the DVD Shrink program I have no problem burning them but once they get about an hour and a half into the movie usaully around chapter 16 it freezes and all this other crap, Can somebody help me let me know if im doing sometihng wrong.

    Thanks,

    Big Spanks
  • LT. Columbo
    Demigod of Digital Video
    • Nov 2004
    • 10671

    #2
    media/compatiblity issue more than likely. VERY common problem.

    there are some basic things.

    1) use compatible, QUALITY media (see link below)

    2) update firmware

    3) burn no higher than 4x

    also, does the disc skip on your pc? that standalone zenith maybe doesn't like that disc type. the trick is to find a media that works well in your burner and dvd player. see here for player compatibility;

    Last edited by LT. Columbo; 3 Aug 2005, 05:51 AM.
    "One day men will look back and say I gave birth to the 20th Century". Jack The Ripper - 1888
    Columbo moments...
    "Double Shock" "The Greenhouse Jungle" "Swan Song" FORUM RULES
    "You try to contrive a perfect alibi, and it's your perfect alibi that's gonna hang ya."
    (An Exercise In Fatality, 1974)


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    • Big Spanks
      Junior Member
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2005
      • 4

      #3
      When I bought my Zenith i made sure it had the features to play DVD+/-R's and all that fun stuff, its not just my dvd player I have a Oritron up stairs and my girls Panasonic, and 2 Apex's don't play them past chapter 16 either.

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      • LT. Columbo
        Demigod of Digital Video
        • Nov 2004
        • 10671

        #4
        yes, media tends to be the "weakest" at the outer edges, especillay cheap stuff. this is why some (including myself), adjust the files so they only fill about 95% of the disc.
        "One day men will look back and say I gave birth to the 20th Century". Jack The Ripper - 1888
        Columbo moments...
        "Double Shock" "The Greenhouse Jungle" "Swan Song" FORUM RULES
        "You try to contrive a perfect alibi, and it's your perfect alibi that's gonna hang ya."
        (An Exercise In Fatality, 1974)


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        • Big Spanks
          Junior Member
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2005
          • 4

          #5
          Do you think by any chance it could be my burning program? DVD Cloner II, I hae Nero it came with my burner. Should I use this instead? Because its so annoying that they just stop in between. am I missing a step in the process. I don't know what the hell is going on lol... I burned all these DVDs and half of them are just coasters now. my burner is a Sony DRX-710UL.....I just don't understand how it players up to the middle then freezes. Do you think its the speed? I usally use 8x disc's, But when i burn from Cloner it doesn't give me an option speed.

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          • LT. Columbo
            Demigod of Digital Video
            • Nov 2004
            • 10671

            #6
            "I hae Nero it came with my burner. Should I use this instead?"

            definetly.

            "But when i burn from Cloner it doesn't give me an option speed."

            this is reason enough, you'll fare better as far as help goes if you use nero to burn. i'd do a test on rw disc (using NERO) and see what happens, then you could post a log. very possible it is the speed at which those discs were burned causing you this trouble. be sure this isn't just the zenith doing this...

            here is your dvd writer, note the media section.

            Last edited by LT. Columbo; 3 Aug 2005, 06:21 AM.
            "One day men will look back and say I gave birth to the 20th Century". Jack The Ripper - 1888
            Columbo moments...
            "Double Shock" "The Greenhouse Jungle" "Swan Song" FORUM RULES
            "You try to contrive a perfect alibi, and it's your perfect alibi that's gonna hang ya."
            (An Exercise In Fatality, 1974)


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            • Big Spanks
              Junior Member
              Junior Member
              • Aug 2005
              • 4

              #7
              Do u have any guides on how to burn with Nero?

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              • LT. Columbo
                Demigod of Digital Video
                • Nov 2004
                • 10671

                #8
                in my opinion the best guides are in nero itself. click "help"
                "One day men will look back and say I gave birth to the 20th Century". Jack The Ripper - 1888
                Columbo moments...
                "Double Shock" "The Greenhouse Jungle" "Swan Song" FORUM RULES
                "You try to contrive a perfect alibi, and it's your perfect alibi that's gonna hang ya."
                (An Exercise In Fatality, 1974)


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                • tigerman8u
                  Lord of Digital Video
                  Lord of Digital Video
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 2122

                  #9
                  I would follow colubo's advice. use nero and get better media. cheap media tends to give errors close to the edge, why you would get the errors at that point in the movie especially on all players. also do as columbo stated and compress the dvd a little more maybe to app 4.2gb.

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                  • jmet
                    Super Moderator
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 8697

                    #10
                    If your backup freezes, stutters, skips, or has some pixelation, it is more than likely due to poor quality media being used. Cheap media is poorly manufactured around the edge of the disc, hence the reason why it mostly skips or freezes from the middle toward the end of the movie. The two main things to consider first are:
                    • Is it cheap media that you are using? (ie. some off brand you bought at a local computer store/fair, even a store like Circuit City or Best Buy sells cheap low quality media.)
                    • How fast are you burning? - Burn no faster than 4X, might have to go down to 2X with really cheap media.


                    Also, are you using adhesive labels on your back ups? If so, try removing the labels (if you can) and playing them again. Go here for more info on why not to use labels. - http://forum.digital-digest.com/show...threadid=28604

                    You can go here for some other possible solutions: http://forum.digital-digest.com/show...threadid=44912


                    Also try lowering outcome the "Target DVD size".

                    Open DVD Shrink. Click "Edit", then "Preferences". On the first tab at the top in the drop down box, change it from "DVD-5 (4.7GB) to "Custom" and enter a number of 4200MB (4464MB is burning to the edge of the disc, you want to stay away from the edge as the edge of cheap media (disc's) are poorly manufactured). Screen Shot Below:

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