HC16 slower than HC15?

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  • UncasMS
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2001
    • 9047

    #16
    ohh, lovely

    will test this minute

    were you, by the way, able to reproduce any lockup when using rebuilder with *encoders minimized* active?

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    • ElBoricua433
      Super Member
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      • Apr 2005
      • 248

      #17
      I can't even find that new version of HC Encoder

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      • UncasMS
        Super Moderator
        • Nov 2001
        • 9047

        #18
        i should think that hank315 has disabled the downloadlink

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        • UncasMS
          Super Moderator
          • Nov 2001
          • 9047

          #19
          i have run a full length testrun with the latest HC 016 test release 2 (09-14-05; 634.880kb) via dvd rebuilder 1.0 rc 5.1 and the usual setting *run encoder minimized*

          everything went perfectly fine

          no hanging, no hickups

          good job, hank315!

          concerning quality: i'll try to watch this film tonight and report back if i spot any of the macroblock problems, that some people reported for the previous release

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          • UncasMS
            Super Moderator
            • Nov 2001
            • 9047

            #20
            concerning speed: 016 IS faster

            having done a full length testrun with hank315's latest 016 test release 2 today, i wrote down the encoding times of two of the segments

            now i have done another testrun with 015 and here are the results:



            segment A with 2943 frames
            • HC 015 - pass 1 => 2:19
            • HC 015 - pass 2 => 2:00

            • HC 016 - pass 1 => 2:14
            • HC 016 - pass 2 => 1:55




            segment B with 1725 frames
            • HC 015 - pass 1 => 1:18
            • HC 015 - pass 2 => 1:08

            • HC 016 - pass 1 => 1:15
            • HC 016 - pass 2 => 1:05

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            • ElBoricua433
              Super Member
              Super Member
              • Apr 2005
              • 248

              #21
              yo do we really need to change settings to get the best quality or leave it as default?

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              • Lownox
                Super Member
                Super Member
                • Jun 2005
                • 201

                #22
                Thanks for the time comparisons UncasMS. As soon as hank315 lets the public have HC16 I will download it and put it to good use. Must have been something in my system that was slowing HC16 down. At least I will know where to start looking once I get it. Everyone's help and input is very much appreciated.
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                (2) WD 120G HD
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                • UncasMS
                  Super Moderator
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 9047

                  #23
                  yo do we really need to change settings to get the best quality or leave it as default?
                  what exactly are you referring to?

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                  • ElBoricua433
                    Super Member
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                    • Apr 2005
                    • 248

                    #24
                    anything I guess

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                    • UncasMS
                      Super Moderator
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 9047

                      #25
                      well then the answer is: YES, changes can improve your results

                      ^_~

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                      • blutach
                        Not a god of digital video
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 24627

                        #26
                        In DVDRB, you can change the Options, HC Options, Quality/Speed Selection to Best to get best output. This will be slowest though.

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                        Les

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                        • UncasMS
                          Super Moderator
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 9047

                          #27
                          concerning quality: i'll try to watch this film tonight and report back if i spot any of the macroblock problems, that some people reported for the previous release
                          i have watched the title and i must say: perfect job

                          everything is just fine

                          using BEST profile with hc and very low matrix + fluxsmooth for the somewhat noisy title

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                          • ElBoricua433
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                            • Apr 2005
                            • 248

                            #28
                            so do you guys still recommend CCE or Procoder?

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                            • Lownox
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                              • Jun 2005
                              • 201

                              #29
                              Take it from me. I bought CCE Basic and HC15 does as good a job encoding as CCE Basic. It (HC15) does a better job with low bitrate movies. If you are going to be encoding home movies or somthing that you can specify a high bitrate on, CCE Basic MAY be worth the money. But that is just my opinion, and everyone knows that opinions are like ***holes. Everybody has one.

                              I hope those astrics don't get me it trouble.
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                              • UncasMS
                                Super Moderator
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 9047

                                #30
                                having to choose between cce and procoder, i'd definitely go for PROCODER

                                here, however, we were discussing HC and hc is an awesome freeware encoder, which many prefer to the cce basic version, that'll cost you ~$58


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                                another speed comparison - full length this time

                                HC 015 - 220 min
                                HC 016 (latest test release) - 213 min
                                Last edited by UncasMS; 15 Sep 2005, 03:39 PM.

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