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  • Chewy
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 18971

    #16
    they can't hide from the venus, as long as intel has to liscense
    the instruction sets and play fair.
    of course after hank gets his x2 amd 64

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    • hank315
      Junior Member
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2005
      • 21

      #17
      in case my time will be slower i'll blame you for using a special optimized version, which you must have kept for yourself so far
      LOL, just used the latest 016

      Time to beat? Think that shouldn't be so hard, my system is already pretty old, the newer CPU's should be faster than mine...
      The Celeron D proc. also runs HC very fast, they also have SSE3 extensions.
      The nice thing about the P4 HT is you can run an encoder and do the usual stuff at the same time, the encoder only takes one thread so the CPU is max. at 50%.
      CCE manages to take about 80% on a P4 HT.

      Here's the log from a test I ran last night, not done with DVD-RB but that will make no difference regarding time.
      It's the Matrix 2, intro and credits are skipped.

      Code:
       
                    --------------------------------------------
                    | HCbatch - MPEG2 encoder - rel. 0.16 beta |
                    --------------------------------------------
      input:                d:\mvfiles\matrix2.d2v
      output:               d:\mvfiles\out.m2v
                    --------------------
                    | encoder settings |
                    --------------------
      profile:              BEST
      frames:                    791  182885
      framerate:               25.00
      aspect ratio:         16:9
      bitrate Kb/s:             4611
      max. bitrate Kb/s:        9000
      closed gops:          no
      VBV check:            yes
      scene change det.:    yes
      interlaced:           no
      goplen,B-pic:         AUTO
      dc_precision:                9
      scan method:          ZIGZAG
      bias:                       10
      chapter frames:              0
      time code:                   0       0       0       0
      CPU:                  SSE3
      matrix:               QLB
                    --------------------
                    |  source   stats  |
                    --------------------
      nr. of frames in source:          199192
      width*height:                    720*576
      fps:                               25.00
      nr. of frames to encode:          182095
      frames to encode:                    791 -   182885
                    ---------------------
                    | encoding - pass 1 |
                    ---------------------
      pass 1 encoding time:              1:22:43  (4963 s)
      average fps:                          36.7
                    --------------------------------
                    | encoding - intermediate pass |
                    --------------------------------
      bitrate set to:                  4611000 b/s
      est. outfile length:             4099805 kB
      intermediate encoding time:          0.5 s
                    ---------------------
                    | encoding - pass 2 |
                    ---------------------
      pass 2 encoding time:              1:08:57  (4137 s)
      average fps:                          44.0
                    ------------------
                    | encoding stats |
                    ------------------
      total encoding time:               2:31:41  (9101 s)
      intra matrix used
         8  16  19  22  26  27  29  34
        16  16  22  24  27  29  34  37
        19  22  26  27  29  34  37  39
        22  22  26  27  29  34  38  42
        22  26  27  29  32  36  40  50
        26  27  29  32  36  40  50  61
        26  27  29  35  40  50  59  75
        27  29  35  40  50  59  75  89
      non-intra matrix used
        16  17  18  19  20  21  22  23
        17  18  19  20  21  22  23  25
        18  19  20  21  22  23  24  26
        19  20  21  22  23  24  26  28
        20  21  22  23  25  26  28  29
        21  22  23  24  26  28  29  31
        22  23  24  26  28  29  31  34
        23  24  25  28  29  31  34  38
      nr. of gops:                      13438
      nr. of frames:                   182095
      nr. of I-frames:                  13438
      nr. of P-frames:                  54052
      nr. of B-frames:                 114605
      average quant (non linear):       3.529
      VBV underflows detected:              7
      VBV underflows fixed:                 7
      minimum bitrate:                    270
      maximum bitrate:                   8997
      average bitrate:                   4611

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      • blutach
        Not a god of digital video
        • Oct 2004
        • 24627

        #18
        There you go, run it on Matrix 2. Movie's time is not the factor - there are plenty of 2hr movies which are 5Gb and lots of others that are 7Gb (excluding audio).

        Let's have a fair test!

        Regards
        Les

        Essential progs - [PgcEdit] [VobBlanker] [MenuShrink] [IfoEdit] [Muxman] [DVD Remake Pro] [DVD Rebuilder] [BeSweet] [Media Player Classic] [DVDSubEdit] [ImgBurn]

        Media and Burning - [Golden Rules of Burning] [Media quality] [Fix your DMA] [Update your Firmware] [What's my Media ID Code?] [How to test your disc]
        [What's bitsetting?] [Burn dual layer disks safely] [Why not to burn with Ner0] [Interpret Ner0's burn errors] [Got bad playback?] [Burner/Media compatibility]

        Cool Techniques - [2COOL's guides] [Clean your DVD] [Join a flipper] [Split into 2 DVDs] [Save heaps of Mb] [How to mock strip] [Cool Insert Clips]

        Real useful info - [FAQ INDEX] [Compression explained] [Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams] [DVD-Replica] [Fantastic info on DVDs]


        You should only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Many thanks to www.pcx.com.au for their supply and great service.

        Explore the sites and the programs - there's a gold mine of information in them

        Don't forget to play the Digital Digest Quiz!!! (Click here)

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        • hank315
          Junior Member
          Junior Member
          • Sep 2005
          • 21

          #19
          of course after hank gets his x2 amd 64
          Hm.., some years ago I promised myself not to use an AMD ever again because of *very* bad experience with AMD.
          Unstable, *very* hot, 55 C (idle) - 90 C (full load), if the cooler brakes down they vaporize within a second etc...
          Seems the later CPU's are alot better but still have nightmare's about AMD.
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          • UncasMS
            Super Moderator
            • Nov 2001
            • 9047

            #20
            ok, i found a source which has a similar number of frames to yours:
            189.243

            we'll see tomorrow

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            • Chewy
              Super Moderator
              • Nov 2003
              • 18971

              #21
              Originally Posted by hank315
              Unstable, *very* hot, 55 C (idle) - 90 C (full load), if the cooler brakes down they vaporize within a second etc...
              :
              <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
              sounds like the new intel cpu's

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              • blutach
                Not a god of digital video
                • Oct 2004
                • 24627

                #22
                I had a problem with AMD fan. Clogged up, busted, system overheated. Lucky it didn't fry the CPU. But I did go out and get new good fans!

                Regards
                Les

                Essential progs - [PgcEdit] [VobBlanker] [MenuShrink] [IfoEdit] [Muxman] [DVD Remake Pro] [DVD Rebuilder] [BeSweet] [Media Player Classic] [DVDSubEdit] [ImgBurn]

                Media and Burning - [Golden Rules of Burning] [Media quality] [Fix your DMA] [Update your Firmware] [What's my Media ID Code?] [How to test your disc]
                [What's bitsetting?] [Burn dual layer disks safely] [Why not to burn with Ner0] [Interpret Ner0's burn errors] [Got bad playback?] [Burner/Media compatibility]

                Cool Techniques - [2COOL's guides] [Clean your DVD] [Join a flipper] [Split into 2 DVDs] [Save heaps of Mb] [How to mock strip] [Cool Insert Clips]

                Real useful info - [FAQ INDEX] [Compression explained] [Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams] [DVD-Replica] [Fantastic info on DVDs]


                You should only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Many thanks to www.pcx.com.au for their supply and great service.

                Explore the sites and the programs - there's a gold mine of information in them

                Don't forget to play the Digital Digest Quiz!!! (Click here)

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                • nwg
                  Left *****
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 5196

                  #23
                  I have had a Athlon XP for a few years now. It has never run hot. It idles at around 32 degrees and never goes above 40 under load.

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                  • Chewy
                    Super Moderator
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 18971

                    #24
                    Originally Posted by nwg
                    I have had a Athlon XP for a few years now. It has never run hot. It idles at around 32 degrees and never goes above 40 under load.
                    It was either a museum piece that got missed or you got a heck of a
                    heatsink/fan on it. cooler climate?

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                    • nwg
                      Left *****
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 5196

                      #25
                      Originally Posted by Chewy
                      It was either a museum piece that got missed or you got a heck of a
                      heatsink/fan on it. cooler climate?

                      It's a Athlon XP 2000, nothing special. The heatsink is nothing special either. The one that came from with the cpu did run slightly hotter at around 38 degrees idle.

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                      • UncasMS
                        Super Moderator
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 9047

                        #26
                        the xp 2000+ i had (palomino core) ran pretty hot btw


                        my testrun has finished with the 126 min source (not matrix2) + HC 016F + matrix QLB:
                        [04:06:53] Phase II ENCODING completed in 174 minutes.
                        so i guess i'm runner-up here ^_~

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                        • Chewy
                          Super Moderator
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 18971

                          #27
                          Originally Posted by nwg
                          It's a Athlon XP 2000, nothing special. The heatsink is nothing special either. The one that came from with the cpu did run slightly hotter at around 38 degrees idle.

                          http://www.apah20.dsl.pipex.com/computer/fan2.jpg
                          custom HSF mount/clean case/cooler climate/good case venting/

                          there's a lot of variance between cpu's with the same
                          specs/core/stepping, but the builder did a good job.

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                          • Chewy
                            Super Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 18971

                            #28
                            2:31:41 = 152
                            (174-152)/152 = 14% slower
                            @
                            (3.5-2.2)/3.5 = 37% lower core clock

                            uncasms, time to open the window, take the side off the case,
                            go back into bios

                            just kidding, not really

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                            • UncasMS
                              Super Moderator
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 9047

                              #29
                              my cooling is decent

                              only yesterday did i attach another 80x80 fan with a higher speed than my usual pabst fans and installed a switch to the front of my case in order to be able to switch this noisy sucker on/off when needed

                              full load - cce running:


                              normal usage:



                              uncasms, time to open the window
                              i better dont:

                              =>>

                              this is what it looks like here since friday morning
                              Last edited by UncasMS; 28 Nov 2005, 08:12 PM.

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