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[shrink0]

Thanks for the input guys!!!!

[jdobbs]

I have to disagree on one point -- I don't think there are very many instances where I would recommend using Shrink instead of DVD-RB -- even in one pass mode. It is my opinion that CCE, ProCoder, or HC will always give you a better picture than any transcoder -- regardless of the source/bitrates. It's just that sometimes it isn't as obvious as others. But why would you want to take the chance? I always recommend sticking with the one backup method that can assure you of the highest quality in every instance.

I guess time is the only real reason, and that's much less important than quality to me. That's also why I always do two passes.

[BR7]

I don't use shrink any more either but seeing that time was an issue for him I thought I would throw it in there.

[jdobbs]

Cool.

[Dan]

Time is definitely a factor sometimes, especially for us with less then superior computers.

I agree that DVD-RB produces much better quality at high compression ratios, but sometimes DVD Shrink is quite handy and does a great job if you don't try to compress too much.

[catthepatch]

Must be nice to have top of the line equipment. Me, I was just trying to get a source for CCE without a credit card. Guess I can always try E-Bay......

[moonboots]

Must be nice to have top of the line equipment. Me, I was just trying to get a source for CCE without a credit card. Guess I can always try E-Bay......

I agree with majority of the people , stick with HC encoder , it may be slightly slower than CCE , but run overnight, you're not going to notice the difference .
It's easy to get sucked into the " only if " situation, i've a overclocked dual core and i'm green with envy about the times of the Intel "quadcore" ,
but what would i do with the "extra" time gained ? , most likely nothing !

[techreactor]

DVD shrink is still handy if the compression ratios are not too low (in shrink) for eg I use shrink for everything above 80%. But yes, there are limited uses since most DVD's are less than that.

[shrink0]

Time is definitely a factor sometimes, especially for us with less then superior computers.

I agree that DVD-RB produces much better quality at high compression ratios, but sometimes DVD Shrink is quite handy and does a great job if you don't try to compress too much.

Here is log for my Lord of War backup,this time main movie only HCenc.> quality normal (default),2pass mode. And done on less then superior PC by todays standards, Athy64 3700+ slightly OC'ed, 1gig ram. Processed using normal quality since someone suggested to achieve faster encoding time.
[17:05:26] One Click encoding activated...
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[17:05:27] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.21.0
- AVISYNTH 2.5.6.0
- HC encoder selected
- "Movie Only" mode is enabled.
- Source: LORD_OF_WAR
- VTS_01: 3,832,956 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
[17:56:03] One Click encoding activated...
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[17:56:03] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.21.0
- AVISYNTH 2.5.6.0
- HC encoder selected
- "Movie Only" mode is enabled.
- Source: LORD_OF_WAR
- VTS_01: 3,832,956 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 175,302 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 60.7%
- Overall Bitrate : 5,403/4,322Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,857,792KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4,626/400/4,322 Kbs
[18:01:08] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 5 minutes.
[18:01:08] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
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[19:58:05] Phase II ENCODING completed in 117 minutes.
[19:58:05] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Processing VTS_01
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
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- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Correcting VTS Sectors...
[20:13:36] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 15 minutes.

Done.
[20:13:36] PREPARE/ENCODE/REBUILD completed in 137 min.

How's it look??? TIA