Help to make vcd from a non compliant Mpeg

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  • girlfromthesun
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2002
    • 33

    Help to make vcd from a non compliant Mpeg

    When I try to make a pal vcd from a mpeg file, an error message comes up 'invalid video stream'
    >>29 frames/sec with 320x240

    How can I make the file compliant? I am loath to re-encode with nero as it goes well for the first few minutes then deteriorates the picture after that.

    I tried with TMPGen but the sound came out really bad.

    Any suggestions?
  • setarip
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    • Dec 2001
    • 24955

    #2
    It probably has to be at 25 fps in order to be PAL compliant. If I remember correctly, this can be overcome by: Under TMPGEnc, try using the 3:2 pulldown or telicine options under the "Advanced" tab. Simply directly changing the framerate will throw your video out of synchronization.

    Let us know of your success ;>}

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    • girlfromthesun
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      • Jan 2002
      • 33

      #3
      Thankyou, I will try that and let you know.

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      • girlfromthesun
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        • Jan 2002
        • 33

        #4
        I have tried many ways to fix this mpeg, and although the picture looks fine, the sound goes all crackly.

        Is there a setting I should try?

        I have tried 'noise reduction' in the advance settings.

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        • setarip
          Retired
          • Dec 2001
          • 24955

          #5
          Try setting the sound to MPEG Layer II at 224Kbps

          By the way, was the sound okay in the original MPEG file?
          What audio format was used?

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          • girlfromthesun
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            • Jan 2002
            • 33

            #6
            Tried that

            Thankyou for getting back to me!!


            Mpeg layer II 192, 4100

            The main thing that nero tells me is wrong is that the 29 frames/sec is not compatible with the 320x240 ratio.

            I tried already to convert the audio to 224 but even though it did improve the crackling to some degree, it was still present.

            Should I try to see if Nero can convert it?
            I realize that it does a pretty bad job at converting avi to vcd, but maybe not with this kind of thing?

            What do you think??

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            • setarip
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              • Dec 2001
              • 24955

              #7
              "The main thing that nero tells me is wrong is that the 29 frames/sec is not compatible with the 320x240 ratio."



              From my earlier response to you, "It probably has to be at 25 fps in order to be PAL compliant. If I remember correctly, this can be overcome by: Under TMPGEnc, try using the 3:2 pulldown or telicine options under the "Advanced" tab."

              Have you done this? (I'm fairly certain that you haven't, since you continue to refer to 29 fps being incompatible)

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              • girlfromthesun
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                • Jan 2002
                • 33

                #8
                Sorry I didnt mention that..

                I did use those settings:

                The 3:2 pulldown option made the video have all these horizontal lines in it and looked awful.

                The telicine option made the picture look good, but the sound was all crackly.
                When I use the telicine option, should I keep the 29 frames p/s in the video settings unchanged? From what I read about this option, it converts to 24 frames / sec. Is this close enough to the ntsc frame rate?

                My mind is spinning with all the possibilities!!!

                Thanks for your reply.

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                • setarip
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                  • Dec 2001
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                  #9
                  "From what I read about this option, it converts to 24 frames / sec. Is this close enough to the ntsc frame rate?"

                  It should be...


                  By the way, you still haven't answered yet another earlier question I asked, "By the way, was the sound okay in the original MPEG file?"

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                  • girlfromthesun
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                    • Jan 2002
                    • 33

                    #10
                    Audio quality...

                    Sorry about that...

                    Yes, the sound quality was very good. That is why I noticed how badly it sounded after the conversion.

                    I have tried both 192 and 224, with noise reduction, and still the crackling.

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