Audio-Video lost sync with TMPGenc and Virtualdub

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  • DWARF_VCD
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2003
    • 7

    Audio-Video lost sync with TMPGenc and Virtualdub

    Hi everybody from Madrid.

    This is my first message in this forum, so I hope I'm making the question in the right place

    I have a problem encoding VCD with TMPGenc. I first extract the audio to a wav file using VirtualDub, and then use TMPGenc wizard to encode PAL VCD. I think I'm following the right steps, but once finished, I notice that audio and video have lost sync.

    It used to work when I encoded my first films, but I don´t know what has happened now. (In fact I think it used to work until I installed Graphedit on my PC, but I'm not sure if it has anything to do)

    Could anybody help me please?

    Thanks a lot.
    Best.
  • shiny#3
    Digital Video Master
    Digital Video Master
    • Jul 2003
    • 1000

    #2
    Bienvenido Dwarf_vcd!!


    the freeware program bbmpeg will allow you to fix minor sync problems . It can be obtained at the software section of this site.

    By the way .... are you sure that your extracted audiofile
    is a wav file???? or did you just use the SAVE WAV option in virtual dub???this only works if the audio stream in the avi container has been
    in wav format already!!
    or was it even of AC3 format or ogg?

    good luck!

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    • DWARF_VCD
      Junior Member
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2003
      • 7

      #3
      Thanks a lot shiny#3.

      In case the original audio in the avi container is not a wav file (and in fact I think it isn't) How should I extract the audio into a wav file?
      I have also extracted the audio using Goldwave (saving as a 44100 resampled wav), but I have the same out of sync problems.

      I'll try to find the SW section

      Thanks again.
      Best

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      • shiny#3
        Digital Video Master
        Digital Video Master
        • Jul 2003
        • 1000

        #4
        very strange!!!

        the golwave should have done the job correctly

        if you like to stick to virtual dub I suggest that you "upgrade" to
        "Virtualdub mod" that has an demux option.

        this means that you simply extract the audiostream as it is
        and then you can process on it with an external audio encoder
        to create a wave file out of it.

        I have not tested it with the newest release of virtualdub mod,
        but have heard that this new virtualdubmod is also able
        to do it within one process.

        but I have noticed that Uncas has gathered experience with that
        new version of vituladub mod.
        maybe it is a good idea to ask him directly.

        the softwaresection is located here

        Digital Digest DivX XviD Software Section - List of recommended, top 10 DivX, XviD and AVI software, latest news and updates

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        • DWARF_VCD
          Junior Member
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2003
          • 7

          #5
          bbmpeg

          Hi again.

          Now I've got bbmpeg, Is it possible to select a different audio source from the one that comes multiplexed with the video?

          Thanks a lot again

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          • setarip
            Retired
            • Dec 2001
            • 24955

            #6
            To perhaps gain some additional insight regarding your problem, would you do the following?:


            1) Load the video file into VirtualDub (or one of its many variants) or NanDub

            2) From the "File" dropdown menu, select "File Information"

            3) Post (here) EVERYTHING you see (BOTH video and audio information), or post a screen capture .jpg of the information box

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            • shiny#3
              Digital Video Master
              Digital Video Master
              • Jul 2003
              • 1000

              #7
              yes it is possible. in mpeg output settings-->in and output files
              with the "open as 1" browse to your external audio file
              but you should load a videostream only not a multiplexed one of course.( in this case)
              I guess I have a vague idea of what you are trying to do but I
              am not absolutly sure!!!
              Last edited by shiny#3; 9 Aug 2003, 02:48 AM.

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              • DWARF_VCD
                Junior Member
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2003
                • 7

                #8
                Hello again.

                Here's the screen capture



                (Or go to http://es.geocities.com/smc_scx/Images and select Pantallazo.jpg)

                Thanks again

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                • setarip
                  Retired
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 24955

                  #9
                  Your file information indicates that the audio is in CBR (Constant Bitrate) .MP3 format.

                  1) There is NO reason to extract and convert this audiostream. Just load the ORIGINAL .AVI into TMPGEnc for conversion

                  2) The rather odd resolution (736X560) might be "fouling things up" under TMPGEnc. You might want to click on the "Advanced" tab, change the "Video arrange method" to "Center (custom size)" - and enter 720x 576



                  Just curious - Does the original .AVI play properly synchronized from beginning to end?

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                  • DWARF_VCD
                    Junior Member
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 7

                    #10
                    Yes it does.

                    Thanks a lot. I'll let you know the results.
                    Best

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                    • setarip
                      Retired
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 24955

                      #11
                      "Thanks a lot."

                      My pleasure ;>}


                      "I'll let you know the results."

                      I look forward to hearing of your success ;>}

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                      • DWARF_VCD
                        Junior Member
                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 7

                        #12
                        Here I am again... I succesfully encoded (as you suspected )with TMPEGenc with no extra audio extraction, using the avis as the video/audio source.

                        Now I have another question

                        Using VirtualDub 1.5.3 I open an avi file. Here I post the '¿error?' message with the file information screen:



                        How should I go on now?
                        Thanks again.

                        Best

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                        • setarip
                          Retired
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 24955

                          #13
                          Converting .AVIs with VBR-MP3 Audio

                          Simply use NanDub (or VirtualDubMod) to save the audio stream as an Uncompressed PCM (WAV) file as follows:
                          Load your original .AVI into NanDub
                          Set "Video" to "Direct Stream Copy"
                          Set "Audio" to "Full Processing Mode"
                          From the "Audio" dropdown menu, select "Compression" - and choose "No compression(PCM)"
                          From the "File" dropdown menu, select "Save WAV" (Enter a new filename with a ".WAV" extender).Click on "OK"
                          Then set "Video" to "Direct Stream Copying"
                          Then save the .AVI as a silent .AVI (set "Audio" to "No audio" after you've saved the WAV file).

                          Then close NanDub and restart it
                          Set "Audio" to "No audio"
                          Load your silent .AVI
                          Set "Video" to "Direct Stream Copying"
                          Under "Audio" click on "WAV Audio" and load your .WAV
                          Set "Audio" to "Full Processing Mode"
                          From the "Audio" dropdown menu, select "Compression" and choose the appropriate .MP3 settings. Click on "OK"
                          From the "File" dropdown menu, select "Save as AVI" and save your file with a new filename.

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                          • DWARF_VCD
                            Junior Member
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 7

                            #14
                            Thanks a lot Setarip. It perfectly worked for the four films I encoded yesterday (I used VirtualDub to set the avis ready and TMPGenc to encode them to PAL VCD)

                            Best.

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                            • setarip
                              Retired
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 24955

                              #15
                              "It perfectly worked for the four films I encoded yesterday"

                              Congratulations on your success!


                              "Thanks a lot Setarip."

                              As always, my pleasure ;>}

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