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  • tzugu
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2002
    • 2

    Digital8 -> CD

    Hello people !

    I have a Digital8 camcorder and a Pinnacle board with IEEE 1394/FireWire connector for downloading the recorded tape on the PC and the required software Pinnacle Studio 7.
    The problem is that at the best quality the downloaded *.avi file is about 13 GB / 1 hour. This is normal because it is uncompresed (this is what the documentations said) but anyway is not a viable solution because I would prefer to store my own movies on CDs.
    So I've tried divx codec 5.0.2. I didn't get too deep into the settings but until now I wasn't able to get a decent quality. If you have any idea how to set the codec to obtain 1 hour of good quality on 700 MB please post it.

    Thanx.
  • techno
    Digital Video Master
    Digital Video Master
    • Nov 2001
    • 1309

    #2
    ok, use Techno's LAW:

    1) DIVX v4 and 5 are CRAP, use DIVX v3.11alpha.

    remember, if u capture and use compression @ the same time, u WILL lose quality.

    so this is what Techno's LAW states:

    "When capturing, use these settings:

    YUY2 OR YU12
    NO RECOMPRESSION
    CD QUALITY PCM AUDIO
    25 OR 30fps
    320*240 RES OR 384*288

    capture

    use AVI_IO software in order to capture over several files, as no recompression takes alot of space.

    then, if u wish to use fast motion compression in the DIVX codec:

    open virtualdub
    open the video

    goto video > compression > DIVX fast motion.

    use these settings:

    75 crisp
    6000 bitrate.

    Hit OK and OK.

    goto audio > full processing mode
    goto audio > compression

    select MP3 with 44100Hz 128KBPS

    then goto file > save as avi > and save it


    otherwise, if u do not wish to do this, u may use nandub 2pass method.

    open the video in nandub

    goto video > SBC Options > bitrate calc

    enter the final file size u desire.

    Hit calculate. that is ur final bitrate.

    click ok

    goto video > SBC Options > SBC Settings.

    enter 100 for minimum bitrate

    goto the motion tab

    for the "switch to FM DLL when motion is over..", slide down to 200.

    in the compression level tab, enter 2 for min keyframe quality and 4 for max keyframe quality

    now goto file > Two passes and save the stats and avi.

    let it run, it will take time.

    watch video!"

    I hope it works for u.

    Techno

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    • hacker_on_fire
      Digital Video Expert
      Digital Video Expert
      • Mar 2002
      • 517

      #3
      i like 'Technos's Laws'. techno's a cool guy. take is advice. howvever as a generic solution u can use gordian knot +divx3.11(/5.12)
      MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU

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      • techno
        Digital Video Master
        Digital Video Master
        • Nov 2001
        • 1309

        #4
        hehhe...thanks

        you don't really need G/K for this purpose, only when ripping DVD's.

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        • benderman
          Digital Video Specialist
          Digital Video Specialist
          • Nov 2001
          • 770

          #5
          As far as you capture from a digicam the analoge guide above wouldn't have helped you very much. If you want to compress the video after transfering it to the pc you should use VirtulaDUB/nandub. 1 hour on a 700-MB-cd gives you a bitrate of around 1400 kbps + audio. With that bitrate you can use a resolution of 640x480, but you shopuld use a lower res (512x384, 400x300) if zthere is a lot of action/movement in the video because that will cause a lower compression.

          Load the video in VirtualDUB and apply the following filters:

          - a deinterlacer (if the video is interlaced)
          - dynamic noise reduction (makes video smoother and makes it more compressible)
          - resize

          depending on your cams quality you can also append some other filters to stabilize color and contrast.
          don't trust in guides

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          • techno
            Digital Video Master
            Digital Video Master
            • Nov 2001
            • 1309

            #6
            Benderman..that's bull. don't give advice which doesn't work and which is untested.

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            • benderman
              Digital Video Specialist
              Digital Video Specialist
              • Nov 2001
              • 770

              #7
              @techno: then you guru tell me what's wrong ...
              don't trust in guides

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              • techno
                Digital Video Master
                Digital Video Master
                • Nov 2001
                • 1309

                #8
                Benderman..I ain't gonna waste my time on u after what u did to me last time, which really hurt me alot.

                if u think ur great, do what u like, but I did not say or think I am the best or greatest, everything i have done is based on my experience..knowledge...common sense and also by reading posts.

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                • benderman
                  Digital Video Specialist
                  Digital Video Specialist
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 770

                  #9
                  I knew you had no arguments.
                  don't trust in guides

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                  • techno
                    Digital Video Master
                    Digital Video Master
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 1309

                    #10
                    excuse me? Benderman...we all know ur causing the trouble here. it is stupid throwing flame wars of these forums. people like u put a bad reputation on this.

                    I am sure Hacker_on_fire will agree with me, and so will the rest.

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                    • Enchanter
                      Old member
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 5417

                      #11
                      Oh no...not another flame ground...

                      Techno, you shouldn't have struck at benderman so...boldly and thoughtlessly. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not to openly criticising and attacking each others. Benderman, do try not to add more fuel to this. Simply tell the logics in your answers and stand firm by them. Don't openly intimidate techno. This leads to nowhere...

                      On the other hand, I have no experience in capturing and will make no comment on who is correct.

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                      • techno
                        Digital Video Master
                        Digital Video Master
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 1309

                        #12
                        Clearly understood Enchanter...I did not want this at all.....

                        Maybe with a bit of respect...things would be clearer.....out.....

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                        • tzugu
                          Junior Member
                          Junior Member
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 2

                          #13
                          Hold on guys !

                          I will try both solutions when I will have time (in weekend probably) and then I will tell you which was the best for me.
                          And then you can fight again !

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                          • hacker_on_fire
                            Digital Video Expert
                            Digital Video Expert
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 517

                            #14
                            people, peace is a virtue. dont fight. do not criticse each other if u have not tried each others advice. i dont do capturing so i cannot support neither of u.

                            wot works 4 1 person does not work 4 everybody. u both may be correct in ur solutions.

                            HoF
                            MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU

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