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  • theseeker2654
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    Junior Member
    • Mar 2002
    • 17

    Video looks great, audio.... Not there??

    Yesterday I encoded a movie with Gknot and the output looked great.. Video was pretty darn good quality.. it was under 700mb which is what i wanted but for some reason there was no audio.. yes i set it up under the tab in gknot and yes i set it up on the page right before the actual encoding begins... also in the gknot encoder log it said it muxed the audio.. however when i play the resulting avi no sound is there.. anyone have any thoughts?
  • edge4Krusher20
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    Junior Member
    • Dec 2002
    • 4

    #2
    I am having the same problem. I followed the guide thouroghly twice, and still there is no sound. The log says the the sound was Muxed but it's not there, also the file size is smaller than what Gknot was reporting by about 100 MB, that's about the same size as the audi file.

    Would I need to use the WAV file or the AC3?

    Thanks

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    • khp
      The Other
      • Nov 2001
      • 2161

      #3
      What does it say when you load the avi file into virtualdub and select file->'file information'

      And could you post you *_gknot.log
      Donate your idle CPU time for something usefull.
      http://folding.stanford.edu/

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      • theseeker2654
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        • Mar 2002
        • 17

        #4
        Here is the log file:

        12/12/02 1:55:07 PM: Job "Movie 1" started.

        o DivX5-Second Pass: F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy.avs
        o Mux Audio.
        End of Job 1 (Movie 1).
        __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________

        Gordian Knot 0.26.1.8
        Encoding Job Data:

        Type: EncD5_Second
        Number: 1
        Name: Movie 1
        Platform: Win98SE (4.10.67766446).1

        Files:
        VirtualDubExe: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\virtualdub\Virtualdub.exe
        NandubExe: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\nandub\Nandub.exe
        AviFinal: F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy.avi
        AviMovie: F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy_Movie.avi
        AviCredits: F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy_Credits.avi
        MovieFS: F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy.avs
        CreditsFS: F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy_Credits.avs
        Log : F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy.log
        Stats:
        Ecf :

        Options:
        Quality/DRF: 0
        CreditsStart: 150427
        UseEcf: 1
        CreditsIVTC: 0
        CreditsAppend: 1
        DeleteInterm.: 0
        EnforceBitrate:0
        AntiShit: 0

        Calculator:
        VideoSize: 640256 kbyte.
        Audio1Size: 78001 kbyte.
        Audio2Size: 0 kbyte.
        Overhead: 9920 kbyte.
        AviSize: 728178 kbyte (711 mbyte).
        FilesSize: 0 kbyte.
        TotalSize: 728178 kbyte (711 mbyte).
        Interleaving: vbrmp3
        Bitrate: 799 k(=1000)Bits/s
        Frames: 157444
        FPS: 23.976
        Duration: 1:49:27
        Quality: 0.232 bits/(pixel*frame).
        CompCheck3: 0.000 bits/(pixel*frame).
        CompCheck5: 0.480 bits/(pixel*frame).
        DivX5BiDirect: 1
        DivX5GMC: 1
        DivX5QuartPel: 0
        DivX5PsyVis: 2
        Resolution: 448 x 320

        Audio 1:
        mode: Just Mux Source File.
        sourceFile: F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -105ms.mp3
        wavFile: F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -105ms.wav
        mp3File: F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -105ms_1.mp3
        azid: ""
        lame: ""
        delay: -105
        interval: 2
        preload: 500
        mux: 1
        recalc: 1
        deleteWav: 1

        Audio 2:
        none.

        1:55:07 PM: Audio 1, determined: 78001 kb
        1:55:07 PM: Audio 1, calc: 78001 kb
        1:55:07 PM: New Bitrate for Movie = 799 k(=1000)Bits/s
        1:55:07 PM: Trying to open Log-file.
        1:55:10 PM: Success: Log-file open.
        1:55:10 PM: Encoded: 150426 Frames.
        1:55:10 PM: WARNING: Number of counted frames differs from settings!
        1:55:10 PM: WARNING: Settings: 157444
        1:55:10 PM: WARNING: Counted: 150426
        1:55:10 PM: WARNING: Difference: 7018
        1:55:10 PM: Correcting Bitrate...
        1:55:10 PM: Original Bitrate = 799 k(=1000)Bits/s
        1:55:10 PM: Now encoding at 837 k(=1000)Bits/s

        Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\virtualdub\VirtualDub.jobs:

        // $job "DivX4 Second Pass"
        // $input "F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy.avs"
        // $output "F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy_Movie.avi"
        // $state 0
        // $start_time 0 0
        // $end_time 0 0
        // $script

        VirtualDub.Open("F:\\Rip\\Death to Smoochy\\smoochy.avs",0,0);
        VirtualDub.audio.SetSource(0);
        VirtualDub.audio.SetMode(0);
        VirtualDub.audio.SetInterleave(1,0,0,0,0);
        VirtualDub.audio.SetClipMode(1,1);
        VirtualDub.audio.SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
        VirtualDub.audio.SetVolume();
        VirtualDub.audio.SetCompression();
        VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
        VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
        VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
        VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
        VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
        VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000 ,0);
        VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(364,"GAEAAIjFDADQBwAA CgAAABQAAAAsAQAADAAAAAIAAAAFAAAAAwAAAJABAAAAAAAAAA AAAB4AAABkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAgAAAyAAAAAQAAAAAQAACamZmZmZnJP5qZmZmZmck/QAAAAAEAAACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIACAADgAQAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOA/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAQ AAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAA AAIAAAD/////BAAAAEY6XFJpcFxEZWF0aCB0byBTbW9vY2h5XHNtb29jaHkubG 9nAGM6XHRlc3QuZGl2eABGOlxSaXBcRGVhdGggdG8gU21vb2No eVxzbW9vY2h5Lm12AG0=");
        VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
        VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
        VirtualDub.SaveAVI("F:\\Rip\\Death to Smoochy\\smoochy_Movie.avi");
        VirtualDub.Close();

        // $endjob
        //
        //--------------------------------------------------
        // $done

        1:55:10 PM: Started DivX5-Second Pass: F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy.avs
        3:37:11 PM: Finished DivX5-Second Pass. Duration: 1 hour, 42 minutes, 0 seconds.
        3:37:11 PM: Speed: 24.576 Frames per Second.

        Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\nandub\VirtualDub.jobs:

        // $job "DivX3 Append"
        // $input "F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy_Movie.avi"
        // $output "F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy.avi"
        // $state 0
        // $start_time 0 0
        // $end_time 0 0
        // $script

        VirtualDub.Open("F:\\Rip\\Death to Smoochy\\smoochy_Movie.avi",0,0);
        VirtualDub.Append("empty");
        VirtualDub.audio.SetSource("F:\\Rip\\Death to Smoochy\\smoochy AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -105ms.mp3");
        VirtualDub.audio.SetMode(0);
        VirtualDub.audio.SetInterleave(1,500,2,0,-105);
        VirtualDub.audio.SetClipMode(1,1);
        VirtualDub.audio.SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
        VirtualDub.audio.SetVolume();
        VirtualDub.audio.SetCompression();
        VirtualDub.audio2.SetSource(0);
        VirtualDub.audio2.SetMode(0);
        VirtualDub.audio2.SetInterleave(1,0,0,0,0);
        VirtualDub.audio2.SetClipMode(1,1);
        VirtualDub.audio2.SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
        VirtualDub.audio2.SetVolume();
        VirtualDub.audio2.SetCompression();
        VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
        VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
        VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
        VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
        VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
        VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
        VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
        VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
        VirtualDub.SaveAVI("F:\\Rip\\Death to Smoochy\\smoochy.avi");
        VirtualDub.Close();

        // $endjob
        //
        //--------------------------------------------------
        // $done

        3:37:11 PM: Started Appending Credits and Muxing Audio.: F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy_Movie.avi
        3:37:16 PM: Finished Appending Credits and Muxing Audio.. Duration: 4 seconds.

        3:37:16 PM: Done.
        3:37:16 PM: Movie = F:\Rip\Death to Smoochy\smoochy.avi
        Total Encoding Time: 1 hour, 42 minutes, 8 seconds.
        12/12/02 3:37:16 PM: Job "Movie 1" finished.



        And when i load it into VD it shows NO audio stream.

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        • khp
          The Other
          • Nov 2001
          • 2161

          #5
          The audio muxing fails for some reason, I am not sure why.

          You can do it manually by loading smoochy_Movie.avi into nandub, set video to direct stram copy, select audio->'(VBR) mp3 audio' and select the smoochy AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -105ms_1.mp3 file, select audio->intrleaving and set the skew delay to -101. And save as avi with a new name.
          Last edited by khp; 13 Dec 2002, 12:02 PM.
          Donate your idle CPU time for something usefull.
          http://folding.stanford.edu/

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          • theseeker2654
            Junior Member
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2002
            • 17

            #6
            Ya know what the wierd thing is??? I have already tried that exact thing.. and when i type a file name into nandub for the new multiplexed avi.. i hit ok and nothing.. no status window... it doesnt say a dub is in progress.. a file does not start to get written in the destination directory.. nothing happens... its very odd... so im just ripping the audio out to a .wav file with vob2audio and multiplexing with Nandub.. i heard nandub does not asynchronize your a/v streams as bad as VD?? is this true?

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            • theseeker2654
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              Junior Member
              • Mar 2002
              • 17

              #7
              oh and one other thing.. what does Gknot .26.1 beta use for muxing??? what app.

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              • khp
                The Other
                • Nov 2001
                • 2161

                #8
                Check that the mp3 file is playable.

                Originally posted by theseeker2654
                i heard nandub does not asynchronize your a/v streams as bad as VD?? is this true?
                Nandub can handle vbr mp3 files, otherwise there is not much difference.
                Donate your idle CPU time for something usefull.
                http://folding.stanford.edu/

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                • khp
                  The Other
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 2161

                  #9
                  Originally posted by theseeker2654
                  oh and one other thing.. what does Gknot .26.1 beta use for muxing??? what app.
                  nandub
                  Donate your idle CPU time for something usefull.
                  http://folding.stanford.edu/

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                  • theseeker2654
                    Junior Member
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 17

                    #10
                    Yea the mp3 is playable all the way through..

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                    • edge4Krusher20
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                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 4

                      #11
                      Ok, so I tried something else, in the DIVX 5 properties when you select how you want to encode the audio (e.g. AC3 Mux, Mp3...)
                      I selected AC3 Mux, it is an AC3 File, and it works, but my sound and video play back in slow motion! So it sounds liek the devil shootin up some Nazi's in Max Payne fashion. Is this slow playback due to the fact that when I ripped the DVD, the frame rate was at 29.9 and then I funked around with it and the final frame rate is 23.4? Or am I just retarded, should through this whole bull**** out, pull out the nylon rope, tie a noose, slip my neck in, and kick the chair out?



                      Just getting frustrated. I have been working on this for 3 days now with no acceptable results.

                      Thanks

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                      • and_bez
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                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 7

                        #12
                        I had the same problem with minority report divx, i found its only seems to be windows media player making it so SLOWWW, all other player work fine, eg bsplayer, mplayer2, powerdvd etc

                        just make sure you have a ac3 codec,(nino pack) as normally the movies that require that codec is what makes it so slow in windows media player, don't know y.

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                        • edge4Krusher20
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                          • Dec 2002
                          • 4

                          #13
                          Thanks for the info, I have the ac3 codec installed. I guess I'll just try the Divx player.

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                          • theseeker2654
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                            • Mar 2002
                            • 17

                            #14
                            oh and dude... before you kill yourself.. just use Vob2audio to extract the audio to a .wav file from the vob files.. then encode the video file in gknot with no audio and leave enough room free for the audio.. then put them together using VD after the video is encoded... much easier that way.. and u dont need to dance with the devil in the pale moonlight...

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                            • edge4Krusher20
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                              • Dec 2002
                              • 4

                              #15
                              That seems like an awful lot of work. But just to let you know Nandub works great on my machine.

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