i wanna make my movies with AC3...

[Batman]

Basically, you could experience synch issues with vbr mp3.

OGM is a new container format, much like *.avi but far more advanced and specifically created for handling modern digital video and audio. A google search and and a visit to doom9.org may yield more information the container

[secotelli]

Uncas, i have a question again.. i make my movies with ogm audio file now.. and i know it is possible some ways to have a movie with 2 audios (i mean 2 different languages)... my question is is it possible to make my movies with 2 or more audio files which are ogm??? i mean i wanna have .ogg file at the end and also to have 2 different audio options to switch... is that possible??

[Batman]

Yes, you can have multiple language streams in the *.ogm container.

[khp]

Why don't you just try it ?.

Here is a guide that explains how to add multiple audio tracks to an ogm file.

http://www.doom9.org/ogg.htm

Dammit Batman beat me by less than a minute

[secotelli]

Originally posted by khp
Why don't you just try it ?.

Here is a guide that explains how to add multiple audio tracks to an ogm file.

http://www.doom9.org/ogg.htm

i will try it of course.. and i will even try for 3 audio track..
thank you guys...

by the way, about formats i agree with Uncas.. i tried ogm after he suggested me and i think it is better than all the others.. for my taste of course...

[Batman]

Originally posted by khp
Dammit Batman beat me by less than a minute

hehehe....I'm fast with my fingers
Sectolli, OGM Is a container like AVI, I believe you were referring to ogg vorbis (an audio format).

[secotelli]

Originally posted by Batman
hehehe....I'm fast with my fingers
Sectolli, OGM Is a container like AVI, I believe you were referring to ogg vorbis (an audio format).

i guess so..
anyway then OGM is better than AVI and ogg is better than all others... is that right now??
hope it is...

[Batman]

The only way to know for sure, is to conduct your own trials and experiments. I do believe the ogm container is far better than avi.

[secotelli]

Batman, I read something in this forum like for animation movies DivX 3 is better than DivX 5.. do you have any idea how true this is??

[Batman]

Now this is a personal choice. There are people who love/loath divx 3.11/divx 5.0 pro/ and xvid

Personally, I believe SBC (2-pass for Divx 3.11 alpha using Nandub) and XVID are great. Then again, people have a wide variety of often conflicting opinions on which codec is "best". To get a definitive answer you will definately have to do your own tests.

The doom9.org guides should tell you everything about SBC encoding and xvid encoding (also in the doom9 forums take a look at iago's 2-pass xvid encoding document).

[secotelli]

is it possible to have 6 channel audio with ogg vorbis?? or this is just possible in ac3??

[UncasMS]

Uncas, i have a question again.. i make my movies with ogm audio file now.. and i know it is possible some ways to have a movie with 2 audios (i mean 2 different languages)... my question is is it possible to make my movies with 2 or more audio files which are ogm??? i mean i wanna have .ogg file at the end and also to have 2 different audio options to switch... is that possible??

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of course you can easily store two or more lanugages in the ogm container!

i still havent integrated this ogg/ogm guide into into my homepage, but that doesnt make a difference for the content.
take a look at this part of the guide:

http://www.atlandide.net/~uncasms/images/ogg/ogg_e.htm

i DONT, btw, consider the ogg/ogm guides at doom9 worth recommending!

using oggmux for example with the integrated cutting function (to e.g. cut @ 700mb) is pretty useless. and stating that oggsplit does NOT do it properly either and still keeping this advice is nonsense.
both wont cut at keyframes, which will leave you with a second half that will definitely have a couple of useless black frames at the beginning.

since virtualdubMOD is able to properly handle cutting it is once again obvious that those guides are not up2date and being the first to put guides online is one thing, keeping them up2date or going over them later on, when problems have been solved is another.

[secotelli]

but i have a little unimportant problem about ogm.. when i work for avi container i almost have the exact file size i planned.. but when i work with ogm, i cant get close to what i expect.. maybe the way i do is wrong.. i do like this..
after ripping movie and using dvd2avi i have some audio files as u can guess.. then i make ogg vorbis by using besweet.. and i check the ogg file afterwards to see how big it is.. and if it is for example 50 MB, then i encode the video by writing 650 MB.. (btw i use GordianKnot).. and after it encoded i just mux them.. the point is after i mux and finished everything, instead of something close 700, i had once 621 MB and many times 67x.. but i could never come close to 700.. it never be bigger but by using these MB i could have better video quality..
so, what i try to ask is, is there anything i do wrong when i encode?? or is there any tips to help me to get close to what i expect??

[UncasMS]

1. it is NOT unusual that sometimes divx5 produces smaller files than calculated. in your case, however, this hsould NOT be the reason why your final filesize wont fit.
because with one cd rips this problem doesnt occur that often (except for titles like panic room or the others for example).

2. i guess you inadvertedly must have specified some audio length in gk, that wouldnt be correct.

assuming you wanted your video to become ~650mb then of course in this case you MUST NOT set any mb size or bitrate for primary and/or secondary audio or otherwise gk must assume you want 650mb all-in-all not video only.

3. you could even do it the other way around: create the video stream first and then see how big exacty it becomes and then calculate the very bitrate you will need for ogg stream(s)!

[secotelli]

how can i calculate the audio size?? i didnt know that... can i control my audio files' sizes??

and what should i do to have 6 channel ogg audio??