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  • t3ch
    H4x0r of Gibsons
    • Mar 2003
    • 113

    Blocky fast motion scenes

    mm k encoding some anime, and it looks great; except when something moves.

    When there's (lots of) movement, there is MAJOR blockage going on... I lowered the quantizer but it's at 10 right now and still hasn't fixed the problem...

    Any suggestions?

    (double passing )
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  • Enchanter
    Old member
    • Feb 2002
    • 5417

    #2
    Make sure you use a minimum quant of 2, and a max quant of 8-16 or higher.

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    • t3ch
      H4x0r of Gibsons
      • Mar 2003
      • 113

      #3
      I've tried 2/31, 2/16, 2/10...

      2/10 looks the best, but it still doesn't help high motion any.

      2/31 was awful


      (btw I got eva all encoded and pretty-like ;D The only reason I was having so many problems was because my system was raped to no end....)
      Last edited by t3ch; 15 Mar 2003, 06:35 AM.
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      • Enchanter
        Old member
        • Feb 2002
        • 5417

        #4
        I don't know why you are experiencing those blocks then. I seriously have no such problems with those quant values and 2-pass encoding modes. Perhaps you can elaborate (again) the steps you took, from the softwares you used until you get the final AVI?

        The only reason I was having so many problems was because my system was raped to no end....
        Have you done the reformat as you said at that time?

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        • t3ch
          H4x0r of Gibsons
          • Mar 2003
          • 113

          #5
          I've formatted twice since, actually.

          Well damnit... *sigh*...

          #
          # IVTC (default value : 40,10,15)
          Clip1=IVTC(Clip1,44,11,95)
          #
          # ANTICOMB (Remove Combed Frames)
          Clip1=AntiComb(Clip1,48,34,4,false)
          #
          # DEINTERLACING
          Clip1=FieldDeinterlace(Clip1,blend=false)
          #
          # CROPPING
          Clip1=Crop(Clip1,6,0,711,480)
          #
          # RESIZING
          Clip1=LanczosResize(Clip1,512,384)
          #
          # COLOR
          Clip1=Tweak(Clip1,sat=1,cont=0.93,hue=0,bright=0)
          #
          # CONVOLUTION3D - DENOISE (Light)
          Clip1=Convolution3D(Clip1,1,4,5,3,4,2.8,0)


          VDub... Xvid settings: h.263, 2/12 quant

          I tried putting the curve compression (high bitrate) on 35% across 300 frames and it seemed to help, but I'm afraid to put it too high.
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          • Enchanter
            Old member
            • Feb 2002
            • 5417

            #6
            Originally posted by t3ch

            #
            # IVTC (default value : 40,10,15)
            Clip1=IVTC(Clip1,44,11,95)
            #
            # ANTICOMB (Remove Combed Frames)
            Clip1=AntiComb(Clip1,48,34,4,false)
            #
            # DEINTERLACING
            Clip1=FieldDeinterlace(Clip1,blend=false)
            .
            .
            .
            This is an insane amount in attempts to deinterlace the video. I suggest you remove everything, and use the Decomb filter by Donald Graft instead (I have given you the details in your other thread, so refer to it).

            Originally posted by t3ch

            VDub... Xvid settings: h.263, 2/12 quant

            I tried putting the curve compression (high bitrate) on 35% across 300 frames and it seemed to help, but I'm afraid to put it too high.
            A curve compression of 10 - 15% should be enough. Put too much curve compression and your fast-motion scenes suffer.

            In addition to the encoding, make sure that your decoder has post-processing enabled. In the case of XviD, make sure that the Deblock and De-ring components are activated.

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            • t3ch
              H4x0r of Gibsons
              • Mar 2003
              • 113

              #7
              Yeah I was using that one thread as a reference, but I guess I got mixed up somewhere between looking at the archives and our previous thread.
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