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  • LordByron7771
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2002
    • 6

    The best Divx Quallity

    Hallo to Everybody

    I know maybee this is not the right place to ask for this, but I'm desperate.
    Have you ever seen this rip of Shreck that goes arownd on many pear to pear programs or the Planet of the Apes'68. Its only 1 CD and It looks wonderfull, almost like the DVD. I mean no macroblocks at all.... no litle warm artifacts wiggling arround the shoulders or hair of the people... nothing wrong, SUPERB!!!! And only !CD.

    So..... How the Heck they did this wonder.
    I'd been using Xmpeg4.2a/Divx4.12 and older versions too. I played witth all the settings and made a lot of experiments. Generaly I get very good quality only in 2CDs(But never as in that Shreck movie and so many others I've seen). For example now I'm decoding "Spartacus" I put 1500Kbps and anyway It looks awfull, full of this warms, blocks and the background is moving like if you were looking throw water. I know is an old movie and it doesn't look like a new one, but I've seen the Panet of the Apes '68 and it's absolutley cristal clear, wonderfull, and old too. So where's the Key.

    My question is if somebody knows about a program.. a configuration, a method or a trick that can really make the miracle. If not if there is some realy profesional guide on the net to make the Divx perfect, and don't tell me anout Nick's Pages, are very good but I read them already.
    Plese Help me on this
    I search all the net and didn't found anithing updated and really profesional.

    Another thing! I was thinking on migrating to Nundub! because many people said is the most profesional, but for What I'd been reading, Nundub was design only for codec Divx3.11 and to mahe it posible to make 2 passes, what is not a nativ option of that codec. So, now that we have Divx 4.12 (With 2 passes nativ) is there a logic in using Nindub? If there is, does it really gets a better quality, and if so..... How? What to use, Which filters... scripts method, options....What?

    THANX
    Gracias
  • LordByron7771
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2002
    • 6

    #2
    DOMINION

    Exactly.
    I read a post on the 2nd page and I agree absolutely. DOMINION are the ones, but not the only ones there are others. They meke almost DVD quality in 1CD.
    The quiestion is HOW?!!!!!!!
    Obviously they know something we don't

    Please!!!

    Why Nobody answer to this Kind of Posts!!!

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    • benderman
      Digital Video Specialist
      Digital Video Specialist
      • Nov 2001
      • 770

      #3
      M$ MPEG4 and DivX3.11 are the best codecs because they are the original (or very close to the original). Use nandub and one of the codecs to get the best quality and read UncasMS nandub -guide.
      don't trust in guides

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      • techno
        Digital Video Master
        Digital Video Master
        • Nov 2001
        • 1309

        #4
        Yep, I agree, DIVX 3.11alpha (low motion) and NanDub = high quality.

        Techno

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        • Elizabeth
          Junior Member
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2002
          • 1

          #5
          You can try Everwicked's guide over at

          This website is for sale! everwicked.com is your first and best source for all of the information you’re looking for. From general topics to more of what you would expect to find here, everwicked.com has it all. We hope you find what you are searching for!


          Its a decent guide which i use all the time. Very imformative.

          Liz.

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          • ghostman
            Junior Member
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2002
            • 3

            #6
            well, i'm fairly new at this, but i learned several things after reading a bunch of online documentation on this. My first few movies were horrible in hindsight. First thing I realized was to cut into the movie to get rid of all black bars. A few divx movies I've come across never bothered with that... Second was to shrink the width and height of the movie. When i started, i thought the movie would look better at native dvd resolution. But I was way off...shrinking it down significantly got rid of almost all the macroblocks. Third, lowering the quantizer settings (divx 4.x) until most of the ugly stuff disappeared. This makes file size hard to predict though. Fourth, use two-pass encoding whenever possible. Fifth, when you playback the movie, increase the post processing setting as much as possible (without causing the video problems, of course). That got rid of quite a bit of the remaining blocks...

            Of course, if you read the docs, then you would probably know all of this and probably more. But if you didn't, then I hope it saves some hours of reading the docs...though I found it interesting. I'm looking into Nandub myself...

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            • khp
              The Other
              • Nov 2001
              • 2161

              #7
              If u are doing 1 CD rips, adding some filtering is also a good idear, temporal smoother(1) in virtualdub/nandub is probably a good choice.
              Donate your idle CPU time for something usefull.
              http://folding.stanford.edu/

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              • LordByron7771
                Junior Member
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2002
                • 6

                #8
                Thanks to Everybody

                Yes, Thank you very much for finally answe my post. Even there was nothing really revealing but some tips are very interesting.

                Actually I read someting but just a comment on TmpgEnc, and doing several (2/3) encodings in Mpg2 before sending it to Xmpeg or NanDub and doing the Divx 2 passes.
                What do U think about this?
                Might this be the Holly Grial of Divx making?

                Thanks again to every body, and keep in Touch.

                Chau

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                • khp
                  The Other
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 2161

                  #9
                  I'am definetly opposed to multiple reencodeing.
                  I consider it to be a crude and inaccurate form of filtering,

                  Filtering should be preformed by software designed for it.

                  But I don't have a lot of experience with noise reduction,
                  however there are a couple of articles, on filtering in vdub, in the articles section

                  Digital Digest DivX XviD Articles, Guides Section - List of recommended, top 10 DivX, XviD and AVI articles, guides and reviews , latest news and updates


                  Definetly worth a look if you have not read them already.
                  Last edited by khp; 1 Feb 2002, 11:40 PM.
                  Donate your idle CPU time for something usefull.
                  http://folding.stanford.edu/

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                  • techno
                    Digital Video Master
                    Digital Video Master
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 1309

                    #10
                    some times u can re-encode the file so it will reduce reduction without filters. You could use some filters if u want

                    techno

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                    • Mizak_10
                      Junior Member
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 3

                      #11
                      flaskmpeg - divx 4.xx - 2 -pass works like a charm until flaskmpeg decides not to work on your computer anymore

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                      • TheShadow091
                        Member
                        Member
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 57

                        #12
                        The Nandub-SBC method with DivX 3.11 works really well for some movies, others DivX 4. Darker movies, cartoons and animated movies work really well with nandub-SBC/ DivX 3.11

                        Most others work well with Divx 4. Experiment is my best advice.
                        -TheShadow

                        "Chance favors the prepared mind"
                        -Houdini

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                        • KillaByte
                          Junior Member
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 5

                          #13
                          Yeah - I got "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" from DOMiNiON here - this stuff really roxx.

                          Only 1 CD and superb image quality.

                          But that's the best part:
                          ALL DivX movies don't play smooth on my 300 MHz laptop except of this one (so it doesn't just look great - it isn't resource intense, too!)


                          Is there any way to contact DOMiNiON or are there any guides from the guys at DOMiNiON?

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                          • TheShadow091
                            Member
                            Member
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 57

                            #14
                            I downloaded the same movie, and i agree the quality is GREAT! There are other dominion flicks out there with great quality too. i think they use the Nandub SBC method or possibly Gordian Knot.

                            -TheShadow

                            "Chance favors the prepared mind"
                            -Houdini

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                            • UncasMS
                              Super Moderator
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 9047

                              #15
                              divx4 might include the 'native 2 pass option' as you call it, but that does NOT make it a better choice than nandub + ms v2/divx3.

                              nandub's options are extremely powerful though i cannot offer 1cd rip settings, since 1cd rips are always compromising.

                              lowering your resolution and smoothing (which i dont like at all) might be helpfull for 1 cd rips.

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