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[hacker_on_fire]

Why would i increase the vertical resolution? If i remove the horizontal black bars (if the source is widescreen), the vertical resolution would decrease.
I am not sure exactly what you mean?

[zx50]

Right, you get some DVD's that have black bars built into them like "t** one", now if you encode that exactly how it's meant to be then it would be 576x432 the same if you remove the black bars. But say if you wanted to have the film at 576x320, that would put black bars on again but instead of the film being a square when you opened it it would be oblong, are you with me? that's what i meant, if you don't add the black bars then you get a full screen picture like i said from 640x360 to 640x480.

[hacker_on_fire]

"it would be 576x432 the same if you remove the black bars"

If you remove the black bars then you will be left with the original aspect ratio (16:9 or the other anamorphic one) not 4:3 which is what you said (576x432 = 4:3).

This link may help:

http://www.doom9.org/aspectratios.htm

[zx50]

Okay i have'nt tried this so i'm not going to pursue this anyfurther for the moment. But within the next few days i'll encode a film like you said without the black bars <b>AND</b> without adding any and see what i'm left with, but i think that what i said is what i'll be left with, but i'll see anyway when it happens.

[decryptit]

Thats obviously my target and finally i managed to get rid of them.
I can play on any type of t.v , computer monitor etc and black bars
dissapear.The only thing is that when setting your codec to 4:3
instead of the 16:9 of your original movie the codec will just strech your movie and make it 4:3.Thats all.

Quality will remain the same and your file size won't change at all.

[decryptit]

hacker_on_fire
"Yes. I always remove the black bars. It makes sense?"

Of course it makes sense but if you have a 16:9 movie and you would like to see it without black bars ,how are you going to do that.(does every t.v let you view it full screen)

I tried removing black bars using my codec but the end result was just a streched movie.

[decryptit]

hacker_on_fire
"Why would i increase the vertical resolution? If i remove the horizontal black bars (if the source is widescreen), the vertical resolution would decrease.
I am not sure exactly what you mean?"

Perhaps a little confusing .k What i would like is that finally my end result is a movie without black bars,no quality loss and obviously without the whole movie being streched.

I've tryed it my way but it just resulted a streched movie.
I don't think that playing the 16:9 movie on a t.v can be set to 4:3.(divx movie)
What shall be done ?

[hacker_on_fire]

Of course it makes sense but if you have a 16:9 movie and you would like to see it without black bars ,how are you going to do that.(does every t.v let you view it full screen)

Nearly all tv's (the larger ones i am talking about e.g. 24" 28" 32"... NOT 14") should have a feature to Zoom or stretch the picture and take up the whole of the screen.

hacker_on_fire
"Why would i increase the vertical resolution? If i remove the horizontal black bars (if the source is widescreen), the vertical resolution would decrease.
I am not sure exactly what you mean?"

I mean if:

Movie 1 : 16:9
Black Bars: Yes
Aspect ratio: 4:3
Resolution: 576:432

Movie2: 16:9
Black Bars: No
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Resolution: 576:324

As you can see, by just removing the vertical bars the vertical resolution decreases from 432 to 324.

What shall be done ?

A tv will always add black bars if the movie doesn't fill the screen naturally. I think the best thing would be to:

1) Remove the black bars in your rip to increase the quality of your movie.

2) Leave the resolution the same so the movie doesn't become strecthed permanetly. INSTEAD use your tv feature to make it fill the screen. This is better if you want to also take it around a friends house to play it their as they might have a widescreen tv thus fitting the screen fully but without being strecthed.

[decryptit]

1) Remove the black bars in your rip to increase the quality of your movie.

How do i have to remove he black bars manually or does the t.v remove them automatically.

[decryptit]

If manually how can i remove them.

[decryptit]

Are sure that t.v's are able to zoom your 16:9 movie and make it appear fullscreen (4:3).

From where can i set this feature.

[zx50]

Originally posted by decryptit


I tried removing black bars using my codec but the end result was just a streched movie.

I tried to tell you that, i thought that the characters would just be stretched.

[zx50]

Originally posted by decryptit

Are sure that t.v's are able to zoom your 16:9 movie and make it appear fullscreen (4:3).

Yes, but what hacker_onfire is on about is zooming in so you will miss a bit of the picture.

[hacker_on_fire]

"How do i have to remove he black bars manually or does the t.v remove them automatically."

Here i mean you have to CROP the video while you encode it. I am not familiar with Vidomi but in Gordian Knot its in the 'Resolution' tab.

"Are sure that t.v's are able to zoom your 16:9 movie and make it appear fullscreen (4:3).

From where can i set this feature."

Depends on your tv model and how old/new it is. I suggest looking in the manual that should have been supllied with your tv.

[decryptit]

Here i mean you have to CROP the video while you encode it. I am not familiar with Vidomi but in Gordian Knot its in the 'Resolution' tab

You will lose quality but.