My Dvd Ripping Guide

[techno]

Benderman, what the hell do u mean? What are you talking about? See, u r stirring up trouble.

DO NOT DO THIS!!!!

[benderman]

Ok, I really think you don't know enough about videoediting/encoding to write a guide. Learn more about it and do much more ripps to get some experience. The sentence about the BLACK bars should show what I mean. It's not the black bars that need much of the bitrate. In fact big single-colored (black) areas compress much better than everything else. If you ripped/encoded at least 20 DVDs and used any other format than 320*240 you can think again about writing a guide.

[techno]

Benderman

It is upto me if I wish to write a guide or not.

Black bars cause alot of DATA or bitrate so it takes more bitrate on it, READ IT!!!

also, I did not use 320*240, READ IT!!

DVDGuy has put up my guides on his site so there u go.

U cannot control me, I did not say that u should be readin my guide, it is a choice and I think u should start respecting other people work and effort rather than yourself.

[Erci]

Are you sure that using fast motion will do great even in the over all quality? I never tried this because I heard it shouldn't be good.
And btw I almost never use anything else then nandub.

//Erci

[techno]

Erci - I am experimenting!

yeh, fast motion is great for the dvd rip i done, I was not happy with the quality from nandub 2pass and low motion for some reason, I even increased the bitrate but no use!

So for some reason, fast motion looks great on East is East!

Techno

[benderman]

Its not the black bars that need the high bitrate. You can easiely test it yourself if you double or half the size of the black bars at the top and bottom. If you encode with maximum bitrate the filesize will only be around 1% bigger or smaller. The biggest part of the bitrate is used by hard contrasts and that will not be found IN black areas.
I always honor the work of writing a good guide, but yours contains a lot of mistakes. All the newbies will take your guide as pure truth and make the same mistakes. Maybe one time I will download a movie that is made with the assistance of your guide and so I will not get the best quality. So at least your mistakes will be my problem.

[techno]

benderman,

I did not say that the black bars need a higher bitrate!!!!!!!!!!!!

Benderman - do what u wish OK, I did the guide going through the ripping. I am not taking any problems or insults by yourself.

Techno

[benderman]

That's exactly what you said. In your guide it says that "BLACK takes up alot of bitrate". What else could that mean?

[techno]

Benderman, I am not going to reply to your questions.

The reason:

because u have got an insulting signiture at the end of your postings. This is unfair and you are not giving me any chance or freedom. You are like taking my "human rights" away.

Have I ever done that to you?

No, I do not think so.

[UncasMS]

techno, wouldnt you agree with benderman, that you should actually learn a little more about what you think you're writing a guide on???

a guide with hardly any background and experience wont be of any help to people in need of a guide.

getting familiar with different methods or routines of transcoding, improving ones own technique and trying to make the best out of this collected pool of knowledge is one thing - writing a guide, however, is another and imho shouldnt be but the last stage!

[techno]

well, I have done my research and I am correct. I have done ALOT of capturing and facing problems with DIVX 3.11alpha but I solve that by experience and asking questions, getting more knowledge.

sorry if u do not like the guide but I AM NOT forcing anyone to read it.

Some thread this is turning out to be, it was not meant for any damage or violence.

[techno]

fair enough, I am a begineer at ripping DVD's. But the reason I wrote the guide was for myself and any one who is a newbie. I did the guide at the same time as ripping and encoding. So it is a step by step procedure.

I am not saying I know ALL, never said that or thought that. I am learning by experience, I appreciate ERCI, UnCasMS and Enchanter for helping me and this is why it has given me a bit more boost in to DVD ripping.

I am doing by trial and error so bear with me.

I never ever insulted any guides at all, I am learning by experience.

It is like driving, if you don't know how to drive, you keep trying it and maybe read a guide or whatever, you eventually learn.

[benderman]

If you can not drive a car you wouldn't teach anybody else how to do it...

[admin]

Please people, this is not helpful. One of the rules of this forum is to be polite, and this thread is not very polite, to say the least.

Benderman : if you have some critisisms against techno's guide, please point them out in a constructive manner.

Techno : some of the points Benderman makes are valid, although he didn't put it in the best way.

We were all beginners at one time or another, whether it is beginners at PCs, or beginners at DVD conversion or even beginners are writing guides for DVD conversion. I know when I started, I made heaps of mistakes, and I still do - a lot of people were very kind to point out my mistakes in a constructive way, but just as many people said what basically amounted to a "you suck". You can probably guess which of these people I resonded to, and which I ignore.

I have closed this thread.